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  • Beercules
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    #281
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Big Dunn: "Boxing is a business"

    Ok here's 10 million dollars, f@ggot

    Big Dunn: "Naw we good! Long term business doe!"

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    • El-blanco
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      #282
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I just realized. el blanco is from Toronto. you are from England. bat the TS is from Denmark. So this is only because wilder is an American fighter. I should've realized.
      Lol I was waiting for the "were jus haters" card to be pulled. I actually like wilder, the character is irrelevant, were debating whether avoiding the number two guy for ten million and instead fighting a lesser opponent for 1-5/10th less money is a duck. And yes it is. He could fight fury or anyone else next for two mil and get iced, then this long term business decision will be a disaster.

      I want to wrap up this idea of ducking too. PAC not fighting broner is not a duck, ill show you why.

      Danny Garcia
      Terrence crawford
      Maidana
      Floyd
      Thurman
      Marquez
      Rios
      Kell brook
      Khan
      Porter

      I could keep going, but I think even you should get the point. There is so many better fighters ahead of broner. If broner was the number two guy and offered PAC 50 million and instead he fought Jesse Vargas for 20 then yes that's a duck, get it? Do you not understand context?

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        #283
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        If you say so. Your opinion doesn't really matter to me. I don't have a problem with whatever move wilder makes next. If its fury instead of povetkin that is fine. If he doesn't fight Povetkin and goes fury then wlad, fine.

        The man has just fought his 1st live body. Instead of going to the #2 HWT next, he will likely to go to the #5 guy. Only idiots like you and others in this thread would classify that as a duck. He is taking a smaller step up. Happens year in and year out in the sport.

        I just realized. el blanco is from Toronto. you are from England. So this is only because wilder is an American fighter. I should've realized.
        Dunn is on the brink of another meltdown!

        Wouldn't it be more logical to note that you're a Yank, apparently black and the biggest Al Haymon ****rider on the board, that you might be a bit more biased than anyone else? That's if you want to play that card.

        This joker had Al Haymon as his bloody avatar and he's trying to play the "biased" card.

        It's 10 million dollars. I don't give a **** where he's from. If Fury or Gaye turned down that money, I'd be ****ting on them too. I shat on Gaye for years for ducking the Klitschkos. Try another form of damage control Dunn.

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          #284
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Big Dunn: "Boxing is a business"

          Ok here's 10 million dollars, f@ggot

          Big Dunn: "Naw we good! Long term business doe!"
          I just went into the Hatton/Witter thread.

          Hatton didn't fight witter. you didn't call it a duck. Why didn't you label that a duck? you then gave financial reasons why it was ok to wait for the fight.

          In my 1st post I suggest deontay can wait to fight Povetkin for possibly more money down the road and you criticize me for it.

          why the double standard?
          why the difference?

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            #285
            Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
            I don't think Wilder is ready for Povetkin. I think he should fight Fury first. He beat Fury and builds confidence. To fight Sasha, he needs a solid gameplan and honestly, assurance the judges won't be some Russian circus act.
            In Soviet Russia, judges rob the hometown fighter

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              #286
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Wouldn't it be more logical to note that you're a Yank, apparently black and the biggest Al Haymon ****rider on the board, that you might be a bit more biased than anyone else? That's if you want to play that card.

              This joker had Al Haymon as his bloody avatar and he's trying to play the "biased" card.

              .
              Hahahahaha.

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                #287
                Wilder was carefully handeled before he won the strap from a dehydrated (?) Stiverne, and continues to be so. He will lose that strap soon enough, but the powers that be wish to keep it here in the states when he does.

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                  #288
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  I just went into the Hatton/Witter thread.

                  Hatton didn't fight witter. you didn't call it a duck. Why didn't you label that a duck? you then gave financial reasons why it was ok to wait for the fight.

                  In my 1st post I suggest deontay can wait to fight Povetkin for possibly more money down the road and you criticize me for it.

                  why the double standard?
                  why the difference?
                  I believe I said that they were both domestic level fighters so it would have been a waste to make the fight at that point. Both of them would have made peanuts for the fight at that point. As opposed to....you know....10 million dollars.

                  How is that in any way the same as this? You're a trier Dunn, I'll give you that.

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                    #289
                    Originally posted by El-blanco
                    Lol I was waiting for the "were jus haters" card to be pulled. I actually like wilder, the character is irrelevant, were debating whether avoiding the number two guy for ten million and instead fighting a lesser opponent for 1-5/10th less money is a duck. And yes it is. He could fight fury or anyone else next for two mil and get iced, then this long term business decision will be a disaster.

                    I want to wrap up this idea of ducking too. PAC not fighting broner is not a duck, ill show you why.

                    Danny Garcia
                    Terrence crawford
                    Maidana
                    Floyd
                    Thurman
                    Marquez
                    Rios
                    Kell brook
                    Khan
                    Porter

                    I could keep going, but I think even you should get the point. There is so many better fighters ahead of broner. If broner was the number two guy and offered PAC 50 million and instead he fought Jesse Vargas for 20 then yes that's a duck, get it? Do you not understand context?
                    I am far from being a wilder fan dude. Everyone on NSB knows this as much as they know I'm a Floyd fan.

                    I explained in my 1st post why I didn't have a problem with it, Did you read that post? It seemed as if you just jumped in late.

                    Fury is a lesser step up than Povetkin IMO. Wilder is IMO still a relatively untested fighter. That's why I think he should go to fury next, if you disagree, fine.

                    Choosing a smaller step up isn't a duck IMO. If you feel differently, so be it.

                    as for the broner pac analogy, it was about the mindset of posters like pain lucy. they fit every non fight into the word "duck". its really ******.

                    Read my 1st post then get back to me. As for the US fighter piece, its the only thing I could figure.

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                      #290
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      I believe I said that they were both domestic level fighters so it would have been a waste to make the fight at that point. Both of them would have made peanuts for the fight at that point. As opposed to....you know....10 million dollars.

                      How is that in any way the same as this? You're a trier Dunn, I'll give you that.
                      excuse making rather than label it a duck as you have in every other instance a fighter doesn't take a fight. Its clear why.

                      I made a similar point that you did in that thread- sacrificing a short term payday for the potential of making more down the road.

                      Its really not that big a deal. as for the post before this, Ive been as critical of wilder as any poster on NSB despite him being a Haymon guy.

                      If you didn't label hatton/witter a duck then you shouldn't label this one either.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-29-2015, 03:47 PM.

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