How shot was Lennox Lewis when he steelfisted Vitali

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  • CJRock
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    #121
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    Piss off Landa!

    As IF Vitali retired because he was too lazy, he was in his 40's and had had 10 more fights than Lewis did too and there was also that little business in the Ukraine he had to attend to. The guy went out on a great note, not with a controversial win over the next great.

    Which version of Lewis would have blew Vitali out exactly?

    The further back you go, the smaller and less experienced the Lennox Lewis to use..

    Vitali has ALWAYS been in great shape too, he simply isn't bodybuilt like Wladimir is which anyone knows isn't really necessary for boxing.
    But you choose to forget that Vitali was a PROVEN steroid abuser. He got kicked off the Olympic team over it. If he was still using that could very well be the cause of his many "injuries" & lay offs

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      #122
      Originally posted by CJRock
      Yes the Kirk Johnson I knew in Dallas was a very good boxer. What screwed Kirk up was the way he was robbed by academy award acting by John Ruiz & blatant corruption by Cortez. If you watch that fight again you'll see that the" Low blow" Ruiz cried about & Cortez claimed he saw, was indeed a legitimate scoring punch. Ruiz had been KO'd but instead got DQ'd Kirk lost heart after that
      Kirk Johnson didn't look good against Ruiz even when he did keep his punches up.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Elroy1
        Piss off Landa!

        As IF Vitali retired because he was too lazy, he was in his 40's and had had 10 more fights than Lewis did too and there was also that little business in the Ukraine he had to attend to. The guy went out on a great note, not with a controversial win over the next great.

        Which version of Lewis would have blew Vitali out exactly?

        The further back you go, the smaller and less experienced the Lennox Lewis to use..

        Vitali has ALWAYS been in great shape too, he simply isn't bodybuilt like Wladimir is which anyone knows isn't really necessary for boxing.

        Apart from DQ loss to Ruiz when he was not in form and his loss to Vitali, the guy had 37 straight wins, 37!!! Including a win over top/underrated Larry Donald and a KO over HW champ Oleg Maskaev.

        If LEnnox had beaten Kirk Johnson, it would have been among his best wins! That is a fact!
        Vitali couldn't even make it to the ring against Hasim Rahman.

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          #124
          From the 2004 biography,

          he's ready to take his mother's advice of retirement, marriage, family and a new career as a global entrepreneur.

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            #125
            Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
            Vitali revealed years ago that Lennox' mum didn't allow the rematch.

            Lennox promised me but his mum decided he wasn't going to fight. He invited me to London, without managers. He said he wanted to talk just together. I came to the room and his mum is there. We talked for two hours and his mum was looking at me and scanning me.

            After that I went away and he called me a couple of hours later and said, 'Sorry, but no'. I felt it wasn't his decision, his mum decided. I tried to change his decision, but it's difficult.

            But I was appreciative to Lennox Lewis that I got the chance to prove my skills against the toughest fighter in the world. But he was lucky, because I was ahead before the doctor stopped the fight with the cut.


            http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...nnox-lewis-mum
            One part of this is true Lennox Mother Violet & his wife , incidently also named Violet, had been pressing for Lennox to retire for a while. After beating Vitali there was nothing to keep Lennox fighting. So he retired & stayed retired despite many multi million $$$ offers to come back

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              #126
              Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
              From the 2004 biography,

              he's ready to take his mother's advice of retirement, marriage, family and a new career as a global entrepreneur.

              And if you never scratched out your face in that pic of blubber you uploaded of yourself we could photoshop your face sucking a **** from a gay **** dvd cover titled "wlads boy"

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                #127
                Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
                Kirk Johnson didn't look good against Ruiz even when he did keep his punches up.
                Watch that fight again & you'll see most of Kirks body punchers were legit but Ruiz was looking for an Oscar as well as a DQ You'll also see a Ruiz headbutt blatantly delivered right in front of Cortez. Cortez said he didn't see it but he saw all the " low blows Ruiz was crying about, LOL Kirks only mistake was to keep throwing body punches but as he said he knew Ruiz wouldn't take many more
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
                  From the 2004 biography,

                  he's ready to take his mother's advice of retirement, marriage, family and a new career as a global entrepreneur.

                  Was that book written by Lennox?? No Try his official autobiography that one is authentic

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                  • Weltschmerz
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by CJRock
                    Was that book written by Lennox?? No Try his official autobiography that one is authentic
                    yeah but as you just said, a major reason behind his retirement was likely his family convincing him, and knowing what happened vs Vitali it made it the more understanding that he in fact did blatantly duck the rematch.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Col. Hans Landa
                      And if you never scratched out your face in that pic of blubber you uploaded of yourself we could photoshop your face sucking a **** from a gay **** dvd cover titled "wlads boy"
                      way to stay on topic, in your own thread too

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