How shot was Lennox Lewis when he steelfisted Vitali

[Elroy1]

You act all intelligent and write long gay ass blogs that nobody reads,well on the odd occasion Weltz lights a candle,breaks out the liquid silk lube clicks on your site with the renamed bookmark "Weltz have a good wank now"

but you've just described yourself here pal,your favorite fighter was demolished against absolute cans in his prime

Brewster and Sanders were anything but cans.

Puritty was a can, but that was one strong and tough bloody can! And he was hardly demolished at all!

Wladimir was not prime for those fights. Wladimir has NEVER lost in his prime.

[Elroy1]

Was Roy Jones prime when he dominated John Ruis??? then got beaten to a pulp by Antonio Tarver and lost his punch resistance and timing?

Lewis had a long lay off and at that age it can cost you everything,his feet were like lead,his workrate was abysmal,His timing was way off and his jab was non existant


I know you like making Lewis look prime so it makes Wlad and Vitali look better,but we both know Lewis in his prime would blitz Wladimir in three rounds and stop Vitali in nine

That is so much BULL****!

You cannot compare these, Lewis was a 6'5" boxer puncher nowhere near as reliant as Roy with those qualities, the luxury of being a big HW.

Lewis's qualities you mentioned as lacking were in fact not so, LEwis was the SAME Lewis as always, he was very aggressive and looked on to me, the ONLY problem is he had a guy like Vitali INTERRUPTING his timing with a quick, relentless and rangey barrage of his own, something Lewis wasn't used to.

It is VITALI who deserves to be credited with making Lewis struggle, not Lewis who deserves to be downgraded FOR struggling.

By trying to claim Lewis was shot, you smash Vitali's legacy. Pathetic!

[Stuntman Mike]

That is so much BULL****!

You cannot compare these, Lewis was a 6'5" boxer puncher nowhere near as reliant as Roy with those qualities, the luxury of being a big HW.

Lewis's qualities you mentioned as lacking were in fact not so, LEwis was the SAME Lewis as always, he was very aggressive and looked on to me, the ONLY problem is he had a guy like Vitali INTERRUPTING his timing with a quick, relentless and rangey barrage of his own, something Lewis wasn't used to.

It is VITALI who deserves to be credited with making Lewis struggle, not Lewis who deserves to be downgraded FOR struggling.

By trying to claim Lewis was shot, you smash Vitali's legacy. Pathetic!

Lewis's feet were like cement,I've said this a few times in this thread and you don't give me a reason for that,Vitali was wide open,if Lewis had his timing and reflexs like in the past he would have made his face look like a fisting **** stars anus

oh and can you clear up another thing.. if Vitali was so much better why was he nearly crying against a blown up Welterweight... granted he redeemed himself against Lewis by surviving against him,but how come you're so hard on Ali for being floored yet you let Vitali off for flat out quitting and Wladimir off for being blitzed by cans

[CJRock]

Thinly veiled troll post!

LEwis was fast that evening, he personally performed very well. That statement was false. He was tired because he got smashed.

He did legit win, that's true.

Age wise he was near prime, condition wise he was near prime. His weight was nothing drastic, he was trained already for top-contender Johnson so no excuses.

Last statement was the worst. Lewis used the excuse that he didn't want to fight Vitali even BEFORE the Johnson fight, that he wanted clearance for his eye first, to which Vitali responded...

"All of the doctors have given me clearance... Lewis is ducking me now!"

Vitali destroys Johnson...

Lewis retires.

After promising rematch.

On the contrary, even though the fight was a technical loss for Vitali, I've never seen another instance in the 150 years of boxing where a passing of the torch has been done in such style! VK basically had the other boxer running for cover.

Lennox was barely 80% ready when he fought Vitali. One thing all you Lennox haters forget.... Lennox was ready to fight Kirk Johnson in a warm up match. Kirk pulled out injured. Rather than sabotage the card Lennox agreed to defend his world titles against his #1contender, Vitali, on a few day s notice. Now tell me one other world champ with the cojones to do that ?There isn't one. Lennox legitimately beat Vitali TKO 6
What else did Lennox have to prove? He'd beaten Vitali when barely 80% Wlad had taken to the hills scared stiff. Who else was there left to fight???
You say Vitali then beat Kirk Johnson? Big deal. Kirk took that fight purely for the $$$$$$$$ he was wayyyyy out of shape & didn't even try to win.
The Kirk Johnson I knew back in Dallas prior to his being robbed by John Ruiz & his buddy Joe Corrupt Cortez was capable of out boxing & beating Vitali
Lennox beat every man he faced in the pro ring there was nothing left to prove. He retired at the right time WTG Lennox

[Stuntman Mike]

Lennox was barely 80% ready when he fought Vitali. One thing all you Lennox haters forget.... Lennox was ready to fight Kirk Johnson in a warm up match. Kirk pulled out injured. Rather than sabotage the card Lennox agreed to defend his world titles against his #1contender, Vitali, on a few day s notice. Now tell me one other world champ with the cojones to do that ?There isn't one. Lennox legitimately beat Vitali TKO 6
What else did Lennox have to prove? He'd beaten Vitali when barely 80% Wlad had taken to the hills scared stiff. Who else was there left to fight???
You say Vitali then beat Kirk Johnson? Big deal. Kirk took that fight purely for the $$$$$$$$ he was wayyyyy out of shape & didn't even try to win.
The Kirk Johnson I knew back in Dallas prior to his being robbed by John Ruiz & his buddy Joe Corrupt Cortez was capable of out boxing & beating Vitali
Lennox beat every man he faced in the pro ring there was nothing left to prove. He retired at the right time WTG Lennox

To the bold,he's not a Lennox hater but he'll twist and turn things to make Wladimir and Vitali look better... he has a man crush on them

I can't wait to see his response to this .. he'll probably bring out the racist card like he normally does to me even though you have a pic of Marciano as your profile pic

mind you his second argument will be you're most like a Euro hater and a butthurt American

[Elroy1]

Lennox was barely 80% ready when he fought Vitali. One thing all you Lennox haters forget.... Lennox was ready to fight Kirk Johnson in a warm up match. Kirk pulled out injured. Rather than sabotage the card Lennox agreed to defend his world titles against his #1contender, Vitali, on a few day s notice. Now tell me one other world champ with the cojones to do that ?There isn't one. Lennox legitimately beat Vitali TKO 6
What else did Lennox have to prove? He'd beaten Vitali when barely 80% Wlad had taken to the hills scared stiff. Who else was there left to fight???
You say Vitali then beat Kirk Johnson? Big deal. Kirk took that fight purely for the $$$$$$$$ he was wayyyyy out of shape & didn't even try to win.
The Kirk Johnson I knew back in Dallas prior to his being robbed by John Ruiz & his buddy Joe Corrupt Cortez was capable of out boxing & beating Vitali
Lennox beat every man he faced in the pro ring there was nothing left to prove. He retired at the right time WTG Lennox

Kirk Johnson was a great boxer, he DID try to win. The Johnson Vitali fight only goes 2 rounds, anyone who would like to watch it can see from the opening bell that Johnson is quick and agile and he is there for business.

I guess your referring to his "shape", Johnson was never a skinny HW and sure he bloated right up, but really, his style was such that it didn't really affect him if he ate burger and didn't do his sprints. He and his team even claimed as much. Johnson was CONFIDENT he could beat Lennox Lewis and confident he could have smashed Vitali too.

Who said I hate LEnnox? He is one of my favourite boxers! But facts are facts, Lennox was Lennox, none of this 80% BS which is nothing but an insult to Vitali.

Obviously Lewis could never win a rematch, no matter what "%" he came in next time, hence his retirement!

[Stuntman Mike]

Kirk Johnson was a great boxer, he DID try to win. The Johnson Vitali fight only goes 2 rounds, anyone who would like to watch it can see from the opening bell that Johnson is quick and agile and he is there for business.

I guess your referring to his "shape", Johnson was never a skinny HW and sure he bloated right up, but really, his style was such that it didn't really affect him if he ate burger and didn't do his sprints. He and his team even claimed as much. Johnson was CONFIDENT he could beat Lennox Lewis and confident he could have smashed Vitali too.

Who said I hate LEnnox? He is one of my favourite boxers! But facts are facts, Lennox was Lennox, none of this 80% BS which is nothing but an insult to Vitali.

Obviously Lewis could never win a rematch, no matter what "%" he came in next time, hence his retirement!

Maybe all the training camps and stiff competition not to mention realising he was done when he struggled against Vitali,Lewis was flat out embarrassed by the performance he put on because he knew if he was right he would have blown Vitalis static head off

Just look at Vitali,he went into retirement because he couldn't be ****ed with the hard training anymore on his body,one thing about Wlad you have to give him credit for is keeping in great shape at this stage of his career

You think because they're all roughly the same size their bodys should all take equal toll.... everyones body varies and some can take more training camps than others


P.S Kirk Johnsons only achievement before fighting Vitali was a DQ loss to John Ruiz... who gives a shyt

[Elroy1]

Maybe all the training camps and stiff competition not to mention realising he was done when he struggled against Vitali,Lewis was flat out embarrassed by the performance he put on because he knew if he was right he would have blown Vitalis static head off

Just look at Vitali,he went into retirement because he couldn't be ****ed with the hard training anymore on his body,one thing about Wlad you have to give him credit for is keeping in great shape at this stage of his career

You think because they're all roughly the same size their bodys should all take equal toll.... everyones body varies and some can take more training camps than others

Piss off Landa!

As IF Vitali retired because he was too lazy, he was in his 40's and had had 10 more fights than Lewis did too and there was also that little business in the Ukraine he had to attend to. The guy went out on a great note, not with a controversial win over the next great.

Which version of Lewis would have blew Vitali out exactly?

The further back you go, the smaller and less experienced the Lennox Lewis to use..

Vitali has ALWAYS been in great shape too, he simply isn't bodybuilt like Wladimir is which anyone knows isn't really necessary for boxing.

Apart from DQ loss to Ruiz when he was not in form and his loss to Vitali, the guy had 37 straight wins, 37!!! Including a win over top/underrated Larry Donald and a KO over HW champ Oleg Maskaev.

If LEnnox had beaten Kirk Johnson, it would have been among his best wins! That is a fact!

[CJRock]

Yes the Kirk Johnson I knew in Dallas was a very good boxer. What screwed Kirk up was the way he was robbed by academy award acting by John Ruiz & blatant corruption by Cortez. If you watch that fight again you'll see that the" Low blow" Ruiz cried about & Cortez claimed he saw, was indeed a legitimate scoring punch. Ruiz had been KO'd but instead got DQ'd Kirk lost heart after that

[Weltschmerz]

Vitali revealed years ago that Lennox' mum didn't allow the rematch.

Lennox promised me but his mum decided he wasn't going to fight. He invited me to London, without managers. He said he wanted to talk just together. I came to the room and his mum is there. We talked for two hours and his mum was looking at me and scanning me.

After that I went away and he called me a couple of hours later and said, 'Sorry, but no'. I felt it wasn't his decision, his mum decided. I tried to change his decision, but it's difficult.

But I was appreciative to Lennox Lewis that I got the chance to prove my skills against the toughest fighter in the world. But he was lucky, because I was ahead before the doctor stopped the fight with the cut.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/mar/10/vitali-klitschko-lennox-lewis-mum