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[bigjavi973]

They were WW champions and southpaws. I repeat, when has Manny defeated a southpaw WW champion? I'll even throw you a softball, as a bonus question. When was the last time Manny defeated any southpaw?

Lmao ortiz? Whos best win was hypejob berto? Guerrero? Whos best win is also berto? Judah? Who cotto beat his ass 2 months later? Lmao try again

[Fetta]

It makes sense for Espinoza to lie. They are on the hook for 2 more Floyd fights and they don't want to receive a backlash from the public. Espinoza knows people will boycott Floyd fights if they perceive him as a guilty ducker. They are already losing money as is.

No it doesnt. Regardless of what moonves said espinoza boxing career on the line. He wants and needs this fight. Unless you think Floyd is so powerful and loved that people will ruin their own lives for him. Ridiculous!

[Jsmooth9876]

Gatekeeper fighters do not become lineal champ of division was karass that? Clottey a bum because he just sat there in shell defense whole time and let pac just throw at him was just there for the payday when he did throw he back manny off but that was few and far in between name the guys manny have beat morales? Coming off loss to zahir Raheem, Marco Antonio Barrera coming off lost to Juan Marquez stop it with that bs because u bias

Anyone can be the lineal champ if they fight the right guy my man.. Herrera could have been the guy at 140 for christ sake if he got the deserved decision over Garcia.. Cotto just became one because he fought a cripple.. Zab Judah is not exactly a world beater... Right guy at the right time for Baldomir.. He never beat a great fighter before nor after Floyd period.
Did you not realize Manny fought Barrerra in 2003 after MAB had won 8 straight including wins over Prince Nasseem Hamed and Morales and Tapia? You probably didn't lol.

[SchoolTheseCats]

Sure he said it. It was his opinion.. Same as when BoB and Manny say they agree to everything Floyd wants and they want the fight.. Do you believe them? ***128521;.. Btw, I don't hate Floyd, I think he's a great fighter but he says "I fight for my fans" then runs from the fight every fight fan and casual fan wants. If he didn't open his mouth at all we'd all be better off..

He has said that they still talking and you guys are claiming that he ducking even when manny gave a end of January deadline but I guess since Oscar was the one to back out the cotto talks and not cotto himself that means floyd planned and set that up also so he can get cotto may 2nd?

[SchoolTheseCats]

Anyone can be the lineal champ if they fight the right guy my man.. Herrera could have been the guy at 140 for christ sake if he got the deserved decision over Garcia.. Cotto just became one because he fought a cripple.. Zab Judah is not exactly a world beater... Right guy at the right time for Baldomir.. He never beat a great fighter before nor after Floyd period.
Did you not realize Manny fought Barrerra in 2003 after MAB had won 8 straight including wins over Prince Nasseem Hamed and Morales and Tapia? You probably didn't lol.

He fought Barrera coming off lost to Marquez he fought Marquez 03-17-2007 and lost his next fight was against manny 10-06-2007 but nice try

[bigjavi973]

here's history on this duck cotto and marg crap and Bradley was prime ww he was a junior ww fool that moved up first fight in that weight class was against pac you bring up hatton who was already defeated by floyd and wanted to move up in weight anyways to secure fight that's a fact go look up interviews of him saying it


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Critics hate doing research on Mayweather
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floyd#3By Robert Elmore: There seems to be a lot of uneducated people on these blogs and websites about Floyd Mayweather Jr. Judging by the comments, most of the fans are new comers to boxing or they are just band wagoners looking to hate on Floyd because he is running boxing right now. There seems to be this myth that Floyd ducked certain fighters.

Let me say this. He can’t fight everybody, although his critics want him to fight everybody. I will provide you with facts and where you (the reader) can go and retrieve the info for yourselves. Before I get started I want to point out this fact. No matter how many sources I provide, the hate still won’t stop. The first myth is that he ducked Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto while all three were on Top Rank. Here’s where I got my facts from. Go to Google and type in “Mayweather turns down 8 million to fight Margarito”. It was written by Dan Rafael in 2006.



A match indeed was set to take place on pay per view on August 12th 2006. Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank said that Mayweather had no problem fighting Margarito for the 8 million. This is where the problem came in. Floyd wanted a guaranteed purse of 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Wait! Miguel Cotto? The same Miguel Cotto that had just beaten Carlos Maussa and was also ringside for the Floyd-Arturo Gatti fight and undefeated? Yes that Cotto.

Let’s continue. Arum was only willing to guarantee Floyd 7 million for those fights. That would be going backwards wouldn’t it? He was going to fight for 8 million then 7 against Cotto in a fight that would probably would have produced a good pay per view buys and brought good cash domestically? In addition to Floyd’s 10 million dollar request, he wanted 20 million to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Arum was not interested in doing the fight and here’s the response he gave.

“That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Arum also said this about the De La Hoya fight. “I don’t want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it’s not worth it,” he said. Oscar’s last fight on Top Rank was in 2004 against Bernard Hopkins and there was nasty feud between Arum and Oscar brewing that started back in February of 2000 when Oscar was trying to get out of his contract with Top Rank. (Google search Oscar De La Hoya; you’ll find this info under the section titled “De La Hoya vs Mosley 1).

But why wasn’t Arum willing to give Floyd the cash he was asking to fight Cotto, Hatton or De La Hoya? De La Hoya and Hatton I could understand, but Margarito and Cotto? This is what led Floyd to buy out his contract for 750,000 and take control of his own career.

Floyd would take on Carlos Baldomir for the lineal welter weight title and 8 million and 1 dollar. This was Floyd’s career best purse. So Arum told Floyd that the money wasn’t there for the De La Hoya fight? Here are some facts and where you can find this info. Floyd’s base purse was 10 million.

The fight broke all pay per view records in buys, gate, and domestic revenue. Oscar took home 52 million big ones while Floyd nabbed 25 million (Wiki Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather). So not only did Floyd get his 20 mill he was asking for he got 5 million more. The ten million he asked for to fight Cotto, he got that in and a whole lot more. Mayweather’s base purse for the fight was a record breaking 32 million smackers. The fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in pay per view history with 1.5 million buys. Floyd banked more than 40 million for that fight. Now I’m going to show something and provide facts. That same 7 million Arum tried to give Floyd for his fight against Cotto, he gave to Manny Pacquiao in his 2009 fight with Cotto. Manny’s base purse was 7.4 million. He also made the same amount against De La Hoya. These were given by the Nevada State Athletic Commission who must publicly display fighter’s purses.

Here are some more facts that probably won’t be researched either. Floyd called out a slew of fighters on his way to the top. He called Prince Nassem Hamed after the Diego Corrales fight. “Larry Merchant told Floyd, “Prince Nassem aint gonna fight you. After seeing this it aint gonna happen”. Floyd also said he hope he can fight the winner of the Casamayor-Freitas fight. He said after his victory over Jesus Chavez that he was looking forward to moving to 135 and fight Paul Spadafora, Jose Luis Castillo, and hopefully moving to 140 and fighting Kostya Tszyu. He also called out Juan Lazcano and Stevie Johnston. After his fight with Henry Bruseles at 140, Floyd once again called out Kostya Tszyu, he also added Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya to the list. Here is the info on Floyd calling out these fighters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4).

Now neither Lazcano, Cassamayor, Freutes, Tszyu, or Johnston responded to Floyd’s challenge. Now I have given much info to support my fact. However, as I have said before, most critics will not….will not…will not look this stuff up because the truth will hurt a lot of feelings;especially the facts about Floyd asking to fight Cotto. I’ve done my part. Do yours. Research. If anyone finds any hard facts about your claims, give them to me and I’ll research them.

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Once your done reading or doing alittle research instead of spouting same crap U hear everyone else say like its gospel get back to me




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After cotto beat mosley, he became the 2nd best ww behind floyd. A month later, floyd beats hatton and then proceeds to retire and say,"ima retire from boxing, boxing is not going to retire me." Then he comes back in 2009 saying that hes still the best, mentioning a fight with pacquiao. So instead of fighting mosley, who just won his belt from margacheat, he fights JMM, a career lightweight, at ww and cheated him on the scales. Why fight JMM and not mosley at that time? According to floyd, mosley had 5 losses and JMM was the bigger "draw" cuz "he has a whole country behind him".


So now it comes out in his ex assistant's new book, that floyd actually came back from retirement cuz he was almost broke. Common sense tells you he ducked cotto and doest have intentions to fight pacquiao

[bigjavi973]

Oh I'm not giving props to marg I corrected two sweet when he said floyd ducked marg these guys keep bringing up marg to try and fit they agenda when even arum said floyd was on board with fight was so confident that he would win he wanted guarantee purses if 10 mil for Mosley and hatton fight and the Oscar fight of 20mil

Its called pricing yourself out. Question... Why did floyd fight sharmba mitchell?

[Spoon23]

It makes sense for Espinoza to lie. They are on the hook for 2 more Floyd fights and they don't want to receive a backlash from the public. Espinoza knows people will boycott Floyd fights if they perceive him as a guilty ducker. They are already losing money as is.

Very true. Thery are in operation damage control. Right now the backlash of not fighting Pacquiao is going to be huge. Allot will boycott his next fight even if he fights cotto.

I would.

[bigjavi973]

Cotto lived too far away anyway remember...

Floyd also said that cotto is too green and needs a couple of tune up fights. Floyd goes and fights cottos old sparring partner

[Spoon23]

Why............doesn't he shut the **** up? He's an intelligent business man, he knows the talking is HAMPERING the fight being made not helping it.

Coz the fight is over. He's fighting cotto.