Comments Thread For: Arum: Mayweather Afraid, Looking For a Scapegoat

[SchoolTheseCats]

I got you, but it's almost like some haters think that Floyd ducked Margarito because he was such a great boxer. He's a cheat. Soon as the loaded wraps were detected, Mosely destroyed him! Then Floyd schooled Mosely. Then Mosely had a draw with Mora, and THEN Manny fought Mosely and dissed him. Why would Floyd want to fight Margarito, when Oscar was "The Golden Boy" of the boxing world? Floyd did what Manny should've done, left Arum, and went to make historic revenues.

The haters keep forgetting the fact that arum said everything was agreed to for floyd and marg to fight, venue purse date everything and floyd wanted cotto Shane Mosley and hatton next for 10 mil guarantees and arum didn't wanna do that he was going pay him less for those 3 fights then the marg fight and wasn't going get him the Oscar fight either which was the fight he really wanted so he went on to fight baldomir for 8mil instead of marg for 7mil bought out his contract from arum for 750k and fought Oscar next for 25 mil total after ppv revenue was split up but had a 10 mil guarantee for fight

[GRUSTLER]

Cotto lived too far away anyway remember...

Oh you silly goose.....


"We're looking for guys like Ricky Hatton and 'Pretty Boy' Floyd Mayweather. So you're seeing now the finishing touches on the emerging superstar, and in 2006 hopefully he will be able to claim the mantle of the real, real superstar."

Hatton emerged as the recognized 140-pound champion with his TKO of Kostya Tszyu June 11. Mayweather, the pound-for-pound king who is also promoted by Arum, stopped Arturo Gatti to claim a junior welterweight title two weeks later.

Cotto against either man would certainly qualify as a super fight, but before either match can be explored seriously, he has to keep winning."

[Jsmooth9876]

Point is Floyd was down to fight Margarito if the price was right and he got him Oscar. That's called making your promoter earn his money something Manny don't know what to do. Floyd got the fight despite Arum not putting that much worth in Mayweather. In regards to your Margarito/Baldomir comment:


"The only two threats I see at 147 pounds are Mayweather and Baldomir," Margarito recently told ESPN.com over brunch in Las Vegas. He will have, he said, a rooting interest Saturday night.

Oh you posters....

Oh you Floyd lovers... Baldomir beat Gatti and Judah in his whole career.. And never beat a name again after the Floyd fight.. He was no better then a gate keeper type fighter.. A soto Karass of today.. Clottey had him beat 7 years before Floyd fought him but Clottey is a bum because Manny destroyed him...

[Bronx2245]

The haters keep forgetting the fact that arum said everything was agreed to for floyd and marg to fight, venue purse date everything and floyd wanted cotto Shane Mosley and hatton next for 10 mil guarantees and arum didn't wanna do that he was going pay him less for those 3 fights then the marg fight and wasn't going get him the Oscar fight either which was the fight he really wanted so he went on to fight baldomir for 8mil instead of marg for 7mil bought out his contract from arum for 750k and fought Oscar next for 25 mil total after ppv revenue was split up but had a 10 mil guarantee for fight

If you notice, the haters hate on history and research:

April 25, 2006:

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

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[ADP02]

Arum is trying hard to shut down the fight , its a week before the end of the mth and Arum wants to dirty people up , why .

A scapegoat , why doesnt Bob present some proof instead of just his big mouth .

I can give you some proof. Check out Floyd's interview where he is discussing Manny's PPVs, and so on and then agreeing to Ariza's rant where he said that Floyd is not fighting Manny.

If Floyd would have been positive after Manny/Arum came out and said that they agreed then I'm with you but Floyd's reaction to good news was all wrong. That is your proof.


Its almost the end of the month so news will come out soon ..... good or bad.

[Matisyahu]

It's going to be Mayweather Cotto and hopefully that's the end of it. I mean all parties let it go and all these threads about the fight are effectively OBSOLETE.

[GRUSTLER]

Oh you Floyd lovers... Baldomir beat Gatti and Judah in his whole career.. And never beat a name again after the Floyd fight.. He was no better then a gate keeper type fighter.. A soto Karass of today.. Clottey had him beat 7 years before Floyd fought him but Clottey is a bum because Manny destroyed him...

Ummm but didn't Margarito say in that quote I posted that Baldomir and Mayweather were threats to him at WW?

Here's another Margarito quote about Baldomir:


"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

Silly billy.....

[SchoolTheseCats]

Oh you Floyd lovers... Baldomir beat Gatti and Judah in his whole career.. And never beat a name again after the Floyd fight.. He was no better then a gate keeper type fighter.. A soto Karass of today.. Clottey had him beat 7 years before Floyd fought him but Clottey is a bum because Manny destroyed him...

Gatekeeper fighters do not become lineal champ of division was karass that? Clottey a bum because he just sat there in shell defense whole time and let pac just throw at him was just there for the payday when he did throw he back manny off but that was few and far in between name the guys manny have beat morales? Coming off loss to zahir Raheem, Marco Antonio Barrera coming off lost to Juan Marquez stop it with that bs because u bias

[Strategic1]

It makes sense for Espinoza to lie. They are on the hook for 2 more Floyd fights and they don't want to receive a backlash from the public. Espinoza knows people will boycott Floyd fights if they perceive him as a guilty ducker. They are already losing money as is.

[Jsmooth9876]

Ummm but didn't Margarito say in that quote I posted that Baldomir and Mayweather were threats to him at WW?

Here's another Margarito quote about Baldomir:


"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

Silly billy.....

Sure he said it. It was his opinion.. Same as when BoB and Manny say they agree to everything Floyd wants and they want the fight.. Do you believe them? ***128521;.. Btw, I don't hate Floyd, I think he's a great fighter but he says "I fight for my fans" then runs from the fight every fight fan and casual fan wants. If he didn't open his mouth at all we'd all be better off..