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  • bigjavi973
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    #201
    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
    When Vernon and Ricardo fought was for vacant wbc welter and super welter titles on line Cory beat mayorga then defended against Judah lost the rematch to Judah and Judah went on to lose titles to baldomir but thanx for attempting the history lesson bro
    what are you talking about vernon beat mosley for the wbc belt.... are you sure you know what you are saying?

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    • HeGotPacProblem
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      #202
      Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove
      If he loves it he's said some funny things that would make me think any time he said he loves it he was just lying because of his chronic lying problems. For instance:

      "I'm a businessman, two guys fighting in a ring has nothing to do with me. Fighters bore me."

      lol He only cares about money and power and everything he's done for boxing is incidental to chasing those things apparently. Which would explain why he'd block this fight just to spite a rival. It's not like he cares if he milks Pacquiao for multiple smaller paydays over one mega payday that might retire him.
      Not many smaller fights to milk as both boxers have only a few fights left before retiring. Time is of the essence.

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      • bigjavi973
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        #203
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Haven't heard from you in a while! What's good fam? I repeat, who was the last southpaw champ that Pacquiao beat? My post is basically to ask: why does Manny get a pass?

        At first I thought Pacquiao beating Algieri didn't fool anybody, but I think I was wrong. You'd think that the lousy PPV numbers would suggest that the public knew it wasn't much of a fight. And that winning a decision, when he really needed a knockout, and didn't get it over a novice wouldn't restore the public's sense that Pacquiao is now a killer again. But apparently it has?

        I tried to explain before the bout how Pacquiao-Algieri was specifically made to create the illusion that Manny is back now and is as good as and smarter than ever. And you know what? Based on what's scoured in the sports section of many newspapers and on the Internet, they were more successful than I thought they'd be. Because it seems Manny went from being the prohibitive underdog when matched up with Mayweather after being knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez two years ago, to now being almost even money based on him taking Chris Algieri to boxing school last month.

        Based on the consensus, Pacquiao gets some breaks that Mayweather would never get in the eyes of the boxing public. And since 2009 I've maintained and have been consistent that Mayweather-Pacquiao hasn't happened because of Mayweather's reluctance more so than Pacquiao's. Ever since the talk of them fighting each other became a hot topic, it's been mostly because of Floyd why it didn't happen. And I still stand by that.

        But what's fair is fair… I wonder how well Mayweather would've been received if he signed to fight Algieri and beat him as handily as Pacquiao did?

        For starters, Floyd would've been excoriated by both boxing fans and the media for fighting a no hope opponent like Chris Algieri. Leading up to the fight we would've read about how Algieri barely beat Ruslan Provodnikov and the fight is just another hoax by Mayweather to pocket $30 million and avoid fighting Pacquiao.

        Let us suppose that it was Mayweather who peppered Algieri for 36 uninterrupted minutes on November 23rd instead of Pacquiao, which of course isn't much of reach. What would the post-fight chatter be? I can only speculate, but I'd be willing to bet that the loudest voices wouldn't be declaring that Floyd is back and is as sharp as ever. Nor would the talk be centered on how quick and accurate he is and how impossible it is to lay a glove on, and you know I'm right. I think it would be more on the lines of, "Mayweather fought Algieri because he knew he couldn't lose and how it says nothing as to how great he still is because he handled a beginner like Algieri." And then every name fighter campaigning between 140-147 who was more deserving and dangerous than Algieri would be named and suggested as that's who Floyd should've fought instead. And if that were the case, they'd be correct.

        So why does Pacquiao get a pass?



        If Ortiz, Guererro, and Judah were all wack, then what was Rios, Bradley, and Algeri? If Floyd gets no props for beating Oscar at 154, why does Manny get props for beating Oscar at 147? If Floyd gets no props for beating Canelo at 152, why does Manny get props for beating Margarito at 150? If Floyd gets no props for beating Shane after getting a KO over Margarito, then why does Pac get props for beating Mosely after he got a draw against Mora?
        wassup!!!(martin style lol) sh^t chillin... yea I think hes getting more props about the algieri fight was cuz his old trainer was always saying how he kept him away from movers/boxers cuz he knows blah blah blah... I actually gave algieri more props than manny cuz imo even tho he ran he has a solid chin. You are gonna have to ask a pac fan about those "passes"... cuz I say the same if mosley was old for floyd than hes old for pac too... I give props for floyd beating ODH at 154 lbs... Close fight but imo you have to give him his due. I give manny props for the ODH cuz he came up from 135 lbs. Some people get mad at pac cuz "he didn't fight ODH at 154 like floyd", but floyd didn't come up from 135 lbs.

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        • bigjavi973
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          #204
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          When Pac lost to Bradley, why didn't he get an immediate rematch? When Rios lost to Alvarado, why did he get a fight with Manny instead of Alvarado? When Chaves was DQ'd vs. Rios, why did he get to fight Bradley instead of Rios?
          ^^^ you gonna have to ask uncle bob for that one.... beats me especially since it was a robbery I think they shouldn't have fought right away. but chaves... IMHO his dirty ass doesn't need to be fighting.

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          • jas
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            #205
            Nsb is gonna go crazy if he fights cotto

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              #206
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              The fight fans all over the globe wants this fight to happen.

              What does floyd do? He will fight cotto, amd hide in australia utill the heat is gone, but the thing is it wont go away he smells like a duck..

              Simple really.. He keeps on harping he wants to give the fans the fight they want. So where's the pac fight? Thats what the majority of the fight fans want..

              I know where it's in Ducksville town that's where.
              Just a bump to show how crazy Spoon23 has been in 2015.

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