What makes Cotto the A-side vs Canelo?

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  • Bardock
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    #31
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    Cotto is the A side, he is the lineal middleweight champion of the world and holds more name recognition in boxing. However, the financial side of things are much tighter, Canelo is a guy who was part of one of the biggest boxing PPVs of all time.
    However, A side or not, Cotto skipping out on the fight or hanging Canelo to dry and doing a back door deal with Mayweather is not excused by his "A side" power.
    ^THISSS. Exactly. wtf is canelo supposed to sit around and wait for jotto to sign the contract while he's negotiation with mayweather. What happens if may vs cotto 2 happens? Canelo left out to dry? whos the real diva here....

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    • juandabomb
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      #32
      Cotto just being a diva and wants to feel like a king. Cotto knows he cant boss canelo with the financial side of things, unlike martinez canelo has a following and generates the same if not more money than him. even a delvin rodriguez wouldve ko'd a crippled martinez. i will keep saying that cotto is overrated for beating up crippled,over the hill,b-level opposition.

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      • jcj0427
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        #33
        Canelo is the bigger drawing power and his stock will only rise. Dude was 23 yrs old and drew the 2nd highest PPV ever albeit with Mayweather. His FIRST two PPV's where hes had to carry the PPV were 300k-350k range. Cotto had a legitimate opponent (Martinez, middleweight king and whose had exposure to the casual fan and been on PPV before) , albeit injured as **** and only did 350k. When Oscar and Floyd were first put on PPV they did similar numbers as well.

        IF A side and B side were determined STRICTLY by drawing power, Canelo would be the A-side. But since Cotto is no slouch either in drawing eyeballs and has had longevity in his career, Cotto is getting the A-side outta respect. Canelo is also the favorite and more liable to adhere to demands then it would be the other way around.

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        • ramses07
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          #34
          i just wish this fight would've been made, puts pressure to make floyd - pac....and then we can be done with that

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          • Bigg Rigg
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            #35
            Originally posted by Deevel916
            Aside from having longevity in the sport, what has he done that's so greater than Canelo that warrants him being the A-side that calls all the shots?

            -Both fought Trout. Cotto got completely outboxed while Canelo won a close decision.

            -Both fought Floyd and lost albeit Cotto put up a better fight. Nonetheless a loss is a loss.

            -Both fought and beat Mosley.

            -Canelo's biggest win....Erislandy Lara

            -Cotto's biggest win......I'd say Mosley as Margarito came into that fight with 1 good eye and Martinez had a leg like baby bambi.

            Floyd/Alvarez did almost a mil more buys than Floyd/Cotto.


            So I ask again.....What makes Cotto feel that he can call all the shots here? As I see it, both are about equal as far as draw and star appeal for their own reasons.
            Lol he didn't even win that fight

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            • Deevel916
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
              Lol he didn't even win that fight
              I'm no fanboy of either but Lara lost it more than Canelo won it. Its a fight not a 300m dash.

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                #37
                Originally posted by -DSG-
                Just a little thing called the middleweight title
                You forgot to put "middleweight title" in quotations - because we all know who the real man to beat at MW is. LOL, and Cotto DAMN sure doesn't want anything to do with him.


                Lol watch - he'll fight Canelo at a 155 CW, and if he wins, which I doubt he will, he'll vacate, or make a "voluntary defense/unification" against the weakest MW champ - Jermain Taylor. That is unless Sergio Mora beats him - then it's even worse with him doing the same with Sergio Mora!

                He won't fight any real MWs...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  I'm no fanboy of either but Lara lost it more than Canelo won it. Its a fight not a 300m dash.
                  This...

                  Honestly, I despise Lara, and am a pretty big 'Nelo fan - but the fight really was Lara's to win...

                  Of course - maybe he didn't "try to win" the fight, because there'd have been a huge chance he would have got caught by Canelo clean one too many times.

                  Nothing pisses me off more when certain boxers like Floyd are accused of "running," but what Lara did was literally run for 2 and a half minutes of every round...

                  Floyd actually stands strong in the pocket, catching shots with elbows, gloves, and shoulders, and returns fire. Sure he'll pivot, move, and use his legs to work along the ropes, only to get body positioning in the center of the ring once again.

                  But there's no comparison to how Lara fought Canelo. It was terrible, and he lost the fight by 2-3 rounds.

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                  • Rostov Papa
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                    Lol he didn't even win that fight
                    Yes - yes Canelo did win that fight. O rlly? Lemme double-check/fact-check/google for confirmation... *Googling...*

                    Yup - Canelo won! Split decision scores: 113-115 (Lara); 115-113, and 117-111 (Canelo). This expert had it 116-112 Canelo.

                    That's all! Thanks! and NEEXXXTTT!!!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Rostov Papa
                      This...

                      Honestly, I despise Lara, and am a pretty big 'Nelo fan - but the fight really was Lara's to win...

                      Of course - maybe he didn't "try to win" the fight, because there'd have been a huge chance he would have got caught by Canelo clean one too many times.

                      Nothing pisses me off more when certain boxers like Floyd are accused of "running," but what Lara did was literally run for 2 and a half minutes of every round...

                      Floyd actually stands strong in the pocket, catching shots with elbows, gloves, and shoulders, and returns fire. Sure he'll pivot, move, and use his legs to work along the ropes, only to get body positioning in the center of the ring once again.

                      But there's no comparison to how Lara fought Canelo. It was terrible, and he lost the fight by 2-3 rounds.
                      I completely agree, only ignorant Canelo haters compare the Lara fight to the Floyd fight. What Floyd did was box the **** out of Canelo. What Lara did, albeit making it a competitive fight, was throw 1 2's and run outta there. Lara ran to a loss while Canelo digged down for a win. I had the fight 115-113 Canelo.

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