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  • HeroBando
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    #121
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Both sides have to be willing my confused little friend. Do you think Golovkin's people just wait by the phone with their fingers crossed hoping for a call from Andre Ward? Lol....you can't be that ******. I know you're just fronting with this "make an offer" stuff.

    Loeffler has been vocal about calling up the teams of Chavez, Froch and Cotto to try to make those fights. But wait....the B-side aren't allowed to call the A-side, right?

    Loeffler will have talked to HBO about how much money is available for the Ward fight and it clearly isn't enough for him to risk his boy.
    Those guys all bring money of their own, dont expect an offer from the B sider, and are active fighters able to make that fight before 2016 at best. And again you forget
    Both sides need to get paid, Ward more so.

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    • HeroBando
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      #122
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Of course Ward's trainer would ideally want that after his fighter has been out for over a year. It wasn't even about GGG, it was about shaking off rust. He also said that Ward himself would be willing to go straight into a big fight. At the end of the day, it's not up to Virgil Hunter.

      What I'm talking about is quotes from Golovkin's manager and promoter. Golovkin's trainer was the one talking all kinds of **** about being willing to face everyone from 154-168 but ultimately Tom Loffler was forced into a very public retraction of those statements.

      GGG's team aren't taking the fight right now regardless of anything. They've made it crystal clear.
      Ward team arent taking any fight right now regardless of anything. Theyve made that crystal clear, fcukface

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #123
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Ward team arent taking any fight right now regardless of anything. Theyve made that crystal clear, fcukface
        Why is it so hard for you to admit that GGG and his team are not ready for Ward? It's not a bad thing. Ward is one of the best fighters in the world and the risk is huge. Do you acknowledge that? You just look kinda pathetic hiding behind a bunch of excuses.

        What's wrong with saying your boy aint ready right now but might be in the future? Loeffler can admit it, why can't you?

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          #124
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Why is it so hard for you to admit that GGG and his team are not ready for Ward? It's not a bad thing. Ward is one of the best fighters in the world and the risk is huge. Do you acknowledge that? You just look kinda pathetic hiding behind a bunch of excuses.

          What's wrong with saying your boy aint ready right now but might be in the future? Loeffler can admit it, why can't you?
          I dont know if theyre ready or not, but it doesnt matter since Ward cannot fight him for a good while anyway. Myself and other posters, including a boxing manager are trying to explain to you what financial sense means, since youre so slow on the uptake

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            #125
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Wait...so the B-side can't call the A-side? Is that forbidden by law?

            you just proved without question that you haven't the slightest clue whatsoever how a big fight is made.

            Just for giggles though, in your vast experience in big fight negotiations what number ($2 million, $3 million, $18.5 million) would Ward accept?

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              #126
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              you just proved without question that you haven't the slightest clue whatsoever how a big fight is made.

              Just for giggles though, in your vast experience in big fight negotiations what number ($2 million, $3 million, $18.5 million) would Ward accept?
              Why didn't you answer mine? Tom Loeffler has stated many times that he's reached out to A-side fighters (not Ward of course).

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              • kafkod
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                #127
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Why is it so hard for you to admit that GGG and his team are not ready for Ward? It's not a bad thing. Ward is one of the best fighters in the world and the risk is huge. Do you acknowledge that? You just look kinda pathetic hiding behind a bunch of excuses.

                What's wrong with saying your boy aint ready right now but might be in the future? Loeffler can admit it, why can't you?
                "The time is not right" does not translate as "Genady is not ready"

                On the other hand, "Andre would need a couple of tune-ups first" DOES translate as "Andre is not ready"

                You can split hairs and waffle till the cows come home - "yeah but, it was his trainer wot said that and his trainer is not his manager innit ... blah blah" - but what it means is that Ward is not ready to fight GGG. If Virgil Hill can admit that, why can't you?
                Last edited by kafkod; 01-06-2015, 12:42 AM.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Why didn't you answer mine? Tom Loeffler has stated many times that he's reached out to A-side fighters (not Ward of course).
                  Maybe cause Ward is not really an A side fighter, even if he thinks he is. A side fighters make offers.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    "The time is not right" does not translate as "Genady is not ready"

                    On the other hand, "Andre would need a couple of tune-ups first" DOES translate as "Andre is not ready"

                    You can split hairs and waffle till the cows come home - "yeah but, it was his trainer wot said that and his trainer is not his manager innit ... blah blah" - but what it means is that Ward is not ready to fight GGG. If Virgil Hill can admit that, why can't you?
                    When Hunter said that, it wasn't even in reference to GGG. GGG hadn't even been mentioned yet.You're really using Hunter as a human shield? LOL....did you not read this very article?

                    "Andre Ward already said he'd fight GGG but K2 Promotions has other plans" - Virgil Hunter

                    You can split hairs and waffle till the cows come home but K2 Promotions said a long time ago that they weren't ready for the Ward fight. Long before Hunter said anything about tune-ups. Whether Ward has or doesn't have tune-ups, Golovkin's people dont want the fight anyway. Stop distorting reality.

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                    • Thomas_Hearns
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Maybe cause Ward is not really an A side fighter, even if he thinks he is. A side fighters make offers.

                      Le's have a friendly bet. I bet $250 dollars that Ward would beat and school Golovkin, and turn him into the next Arthur Abraham once he moves up at 168.

                      Abraham was a beast at 160. And he has a better resume than Golovkin.





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                      Last edited by Thomas_Hearns; 01-06-2015, 01:12 AM.

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