Comments Thread For: Quillin: Golovkin Doesn't Bring Much Money To The Table

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Whether Ward has legal issues or not doesn't change the fact that Golovkin's team have ruled out that fight for financial reasons.

[Szef]

As of a few months ago Dirk and I do not get along. That said, he is absolutely right on this one. GGG fans on NSB can't really get upset with Quillin using the same standard as GGG is using.

Yes ward is in a different weight class, but GGG did say he would fight anyone from 154-168, which makes ward being at 168 irrelevant to the debate.

GGG's people should have just been honest-HBO is building him up and wants to wait on a Ward fight until they see what kind of PPV money he brings in vs Canelo/cotto winner, chavez, or Froch.

OK, so he's a hypocrite (almost every fighter is for that matter).

Now that we've established that, can we agree that Ward situation is totally difrrent from Quillin's because:

- Ward doesn't fight, Quillin does (on undercards, but still).

- Ward doesn not fight at GGG's division, Quillin does.

Can we?

[SergioMartinez]

This is sickening, im not sure why all fighters think they are FLOYD MAYWEATHER.

Golovkin is 10 times the name Peter Quillin is.

[kafkod]

Whether Ward has legal issues or not doesn't change the fact that Golovkin's team have ruled out that fight for financial reasons.

They haven't ruled it out. "When the time is right." does not mean "never"
And the time is not right for Ward either.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I repeat, what Sanchez actually said was that when Ward accepted that GGG was more than just another opponent, then they could talk to him about making the fight.

No doubt that JCC Jr would bring more money than Ward. He would also give GGG a bigger share of it, and be less dangerous as an opponent. Can you seriously not understand why that would make him a more attractive option?

And I see you are aware that Ward's trainer said he would need a couple of tune-ups before fighting GGG. Which means that Ward doesn't want the fight now either, and maybe never will.

Why then are you still trying to compare GGG to Quillin? One is focused on unifying the belts at 160 and saying that, possibly, after doing so, he will move up to fight the champ at 168. The other gave up his belt to avoid a unification fight and is talking absolute rubbish to try and justify doing it.

Pack it in Dirk, you are just making yourself look silly.

Where did Ward ever say anything about the split or make any kind of demands? All he did was say "lets fight" and Golovkin's team started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to even begin a negotiation.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

They haven't ruled it out. "When the time is right." does not mean "never"
And the time is not right for Ward either.

They've ruled it out for now. I don't think Quillin has ever ruled out fighting Golovkin. He's just stating something factual here.

[The Big Dunn]

OK, so he's a hypocrite (almost every fighter is for that matter).

Now that we've established that, can we agree that Ward situation is totally difrrent from Quillin's because:

- Ward doesn't fight, Quillin does (on undercards, but still).

- Ward doesn not fight at GGG's division, Quillin does.

Can we?

Szef they are not so different as you suggest IMO. It over simplifies things to say ward "doesn't fight". He is in a contract dispute with his manager. While I think he should settle it and fight and not waste his prime, I'm not in his shoes.

I already pointed out the division thing. Further, GGG had no qualms about mentioning Floyd or Canelo when they were at 154, whom are also not in his division.

GGG is being held to what he said, same as NSB does for every fighter. He isn't being treated any differently.

[The Big Dunn]

Ward isn't fighting anyone, how can he be relevant right now? I want to see Golovkin-Ward but Ward needs to sort his promotional stuff out and show he isn't actually a retired fighter. Ward really should be getting stripped by the WBA soon, he hasn't fought in over a year, has no fight scheduled and has only defended his title twice in the past 27 months. 3 years ago he defeated Froch and he has had only two ****ing fights since!

As for Quillin he knows he will get stopped by Golovkin and besides Mr Haymon is not going to put him in with him anyway. Most of what Quillin says makes absolutely no sense but for his sake I hope Haymon will be overpaying him next year against Jacobs or/and Taylor to make up for royally screwing him out of the Korobov purse.

I agree he should get stripped but I think its hard to pass judgment on his manager issues. I think he should settle them and fight but I'm not him.

Yes, Quillin is foolish. But IMO GGG was almost as foolish when he tried to "big boy" ward. Is it any surprise that cotto and quillin said same to him?

[Szef]

Szef they are not so different as you suggest IMO. It over simplifies things to say ward "doesn't fight". He is in a contract dispute with his manager. While I think he should settle it and fight and not waste his prime, I'm not in his shoes.

I already pointed out the division thing. Further, GGG had no qualms about mentioning Floyd or Canelo when they were at 154, whom are also not in his division.

GGG is being held to what he said, same as NSB does for every fighter. He isn't being treated any differently.

So how can GGG duck someone who's in no position to fight? He can't.

Besides, this fight will eventually happen, i think that's pretty obvious.

Quillin has not only blatantly ducked Golovkin, he's done that to Korobov too : He got paid by his prmotoer to vacate and step down.

If you think that's not a duck then i don't know wtf to tell you.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So how can GGG duck someone who's in no position to fight? He can't.

Besides, this fight will eventually happen, i think that's pretty obvious.

Quillin has not only blatantly ducked Golovkin, he's done that to Korobov too : He got paid by his prmotoer to vacate and step down.

If you think that's not a duck then i don't know wtf to tell you.

When did he blatantly duck Golovkin? They have been on opposite sides of the cold war for years. The only way a fight between the two would have come together was a purse bid situation which I believe Golovkin's team were not willing to do.