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  • Originally posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    what the hell did robert guerrero do to be rated that highly?

    please answer me this.

    do we seriously want to go through mayweather's resume?

    just remember mayweather has been promoted by the company that owns ring magazine.

    come on now.
    They had been preparing Guerrero to fight Floyd for a while. Even before Guerrero even had a fight at WW. So Guerrero fought for a vacant interim title against a guy that went back down to 140. Guerrero didn't look good in that fight but won. Then faced the guy that used to be the fighter to beat to get to Floyd ...... Berto! Yes, we all knew by then that Berto had no defense and all it took is someone who can exploit that and they would be off to the races.

    So just like many of Floyd's fight, it didn't take much to fool Floyd's fan base. If they paid attention, a year before, Floyd said "I honestly don't know who Guerrero is".

    Consistency is something that has failed with most of Floyd's opponents. Hype over consistency.

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    • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Cotto and clottey were top welters, who campaigned there for a long time..

      Cotto, clottey, and a 150 margarito were top welters from 07-10


      I'm not trying to take sides or turn this into another floyd/manny debate but

      Clottey, margs, cotto were top welters

      And though they aren't true welters marquez, Bradley >>>>Ortiz,ghost,marcos
      you can't be serious.......if pacf@gs want to discredit the canelo win for floyd you best believe others will discredit pacquiao's cotto win because of the catchweight plus the fact that he hadn't looked that impressive going into the pacquiao fight......as for clottey, maidana and the ghost beat him on activity alone, he has pretty much lost every big fight he's ever had include the fight he lost going into the pacquiao fight........and i can't believe you brought up margarito as if he was a top fighter when pacquiao fought him because that guy was shot to pieces and came off a one year suspension(after getting ktfo by mosley) only look like crap against a bum before the pacquiao fight.

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      • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        So facts....Manny only beat 3 top ten ww (bradley, cotto, mosley)his whole campaign at welterweight


        Mayweather beat Guerrero, Mosley first after a huge win, Ortiz,undefeated


        x), champs baldo and Judah, Mitchell unranked his first fight at ww, Jmm who koed PAC, hatton moving up and who was undefeated

        You can't even get your phony rankings right. You keep on excluding for Manny Clottey and for some reason confusing the listing by adding Marquez and other names in Floyd's just to make it look like there are more names.


        Manny fought at WW these fighters: Cotto, Clottey, Oscar, Marquez 2X, Bradley 2X. I would take them over anyone that Floyd fought at WW any day of the week.

        Who do you have from Floyd's list?
        Ortiz? Floyd beat him by way of SUCKER PUNCH! You even count that?

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        • Originally posted by malcolm View Post

          Weight didn't beat Cotto. Pacquiao's skills beat Cotto. And lets not forget that Cotto weighed in at 146 for his last fight before Pac.

          Since you're focused on little details then don't forget that one either.
          I just have to mention this because stans always use wieight ins as an argument... If pacquiao doesn't get credit for Cotto then May doesn't get credit for Canelo or Marquez...

          Both fighters are great but neither fighter will have the greatest resume when it's all said and done...

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          • Please shut up about the catch weights. They've been around forever. Stop acting like it's something Pac and Mayweather just started.

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              You can't even get your phony rankings right. You keep on excluding for Manny Clottey and for some reason confusing the listing by adding Marquez and other names in Floyd's just to make it look like there are more names.


              Manny fought at WW these fighters: Cotto, Clottey, Oscar, Marquez 2X, Bradley 2X. I would take them over anyone that Floyd fought at WW any day of the week.

              Who do you have from Floyd's list?
              Ortiz? Floyd beat him by way of SUCKER PUNCH! You even count that?


              Bro if somebody head butted you intentionally and they had a moment where their weren't paying attention, youd have retaliated too


              all these cyber saints on here talking about cheap shots and Mayweather did nothing illegal....the incident wouldn't have happened in the first place if Ortiz didn't jump at him


              Bro aint no phony fake rankings....go to ring magazine rankings and find the month and years...im not gonna do it for you



              Just face it....Pacquaio is great but he just hasn't fought the competition Mayweather has and never is or was the number one welterweight in the world

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              • Originally posted by Vilicious86 View Post
                Please shut up about the catch weights. They've been around forever. Stop acting like it's something Pac and Mayweather just started.
                Ohhhhhh now!!!!! you want to say that!

                Back when Cotto and Margs happened they were the devil though!

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                • Originally posted by malcolm View Post
                  I don't give a damn about who fought who at what weight. I care more about the level of opposition.

                  Fact is Manny LOST to Tim Bradley and JMM.

                  Fact is Floyd dominated JMM and Tim Bradley is honestly on the same level as Robert Guerrero. Matter of fact, I think if we did a poll on NSB, GUerrero vs Bradley would be seen as a pickem fight.

                  Mayweather beating a young and prime Canelo is more impressive than any single victory Manny has.

                  I'm sorry but MAB was past his prime and Morales was coming off a LOSS when Manny fought them.

                  Hatton and De La Hoya had already been beaten and forgotten about by Floyd by the time Manny fought them. Same can be said for Mosley.

                  Even Maidana is better than anything Pac has fought since Cotto.

                  Multiple opponents have figured out and defeated Pac.

                  Floyd has been undefeated since 1996. We're in 2015. And NOBODY has figured his style out yet. And it's not like he's fighting foreign no named boxers. He's fighting the best the sport has to offer and he still can't be reckoned with.

                  That's as impressive a feat as any boxer has accomplished in the history of this sport.
                  Alright that's enough Flomming for the day from the racist black hebrew israelite malcom



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                  • Originally posted by Hype job View Post
                    Ohhhhhh now!!!!! you want to say that!

                    Back when Cotto and Margs happened they were the devil though!

                    I never said that.

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                    • Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                      abregu
                      ruslan
                      marquez

                      hatton:
                      collazo
                      Ruslan was a jww. When Tim beat Manny he had defeated abregu and casamayor. If that ww resume is better than Shane's then you and daggum are ******ed.

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