who's the only fighter in this era to defeat 13 ring mag rated fighters in a row

[493dart]

You forgot the fact that JLC beat mayweather.

[Hype job]

Ruslan was a jww. When Tim beat Manny he had defeated abregu and casamayor. If that ww resume is better than Shane's then you and daggum are ******ed.

Manny didn't beat Shane?

Oh yeah I forgot he was a completely different fighter when Manny faced him... he was ruined.

[RespekonMyName]

you forgot the fact that jlc beat mayweather.

47-0...............

[therealpugilist]

You forgot the fact that JLC beat mayweather.

A decision is debateable, whats not debateable is the 3 ko losses to Torrecampo, Marquez, and Singsurat on Manny's ledger


A great fighter but he is not this unstoppable force that y'all want him to be....Maybe he was the next "Great Hope" of beating Mayweather for you guys.


When the fight is signed, yall will have excuses like every other fighter Mayweather has defeated after Gatti and he turned into Money and stop being wannabe Sugar Ray Leonard

[therealpugilist]

Shane was coming off a loss and a draw


It doesn't carry the same weight as fighting someone after a huge win



Why are yall pac fanatics blind to see its important when you beat a fighter, not just the name.



examples: A)Floyd beat ODLH at his best weight, chose the gloves, ring size, after a big win and winning the wbc 154 title.............Manny beats him after a loss and a bad showing against Steve Forbes who never did anything over 130


B) Mayweather beat an undefeated Hatton after he disposed off his closest rival at the time, Jose Luis Castillo............Manny fights him afterwards a decent win over Malignaggi and a shaky fight with Lazcano


C)Mayweather fights Shane after he ko'ed Margo, and the Berto fight was canceled...they fight and Mayweather just beat the number one guy in the weight.............Manny fights him after a loss to Mayweather, and a draw he could have just as easily lost to Mora

D) Cotto was coming off a beatdown to Margo and a razor close fight to Clottey........Mayweather fought him at a better weight, after consecutive wins and he was the highest rated JMW


E) JMM was coming off a win in the fight of the year of 09 WITH Diaz and had just beat Casamayor for the lightweight title....he called out Mayweather who hadn't fought in almost two years and got schooled...........Whereas PACQUAIO NEVER BEAT THE GUY CLEARLY ONE TIME AND GOT KTFO IN THE LAST FIGHT....SOME OF YALL BRING UP CASTILLO BUT IT DIDNT TAKE 4 FIGHTS TO SEE WHO WAS THE BETTER FIGHTER



its not that complex to understand....fighting unranked guys and fighting guys coming off losses and razor thin wins, isn't as impressive as dominating and/or beating fighters coming off career-wins.

[sargo]

Who has defeated the most fighters while they were ranked in the top 10 P4P list?

[ADP02]

Bro if somebody head butted you intentionally and they had a moment where their weren't paying attention, youd have retaliated too


all these cyber saints on here talking about cheap shots and Mayweather did nothing illegal....the incident wouldn't have happened in the first place if Ortiz didn't jump at him


Bro aint no phony fake rankings....go to ring magazine rankings and find the month and years...im not gonna do it for you



Just face it....Pacquaio is great but he just hasn't fought the competition Mayweather has and never is or was the number one welterweight in the world

Sure Floyd won but:
Floyd vs Ortiz will be remembered by the SUCKER PUNCH nothing more. Go check out the commentators on what they thought.

I don't need to go anywhere as I know that Clottey was ranked.

Ranked or not, I would pick Cotto, Clottey, Oscar, Marquez 2X, Bradley 2X over those who Floyd fought.

You as a Floyd fan doesn't want to analyze anything because those phony ranked list that you brought up would all come crumbling down. All you need to do is check out where each one of them were just before their hyped up fight and that is all she wrote.

Actually, I have been saying what you having been saying for many years. It's all a sham. Only Floyd fans believe it because that is all they can rely on.

Take away that 1 or 2 fights, they have NOTHING! Very few had any consistency at WW. That is much more revealing than you stat. Others have said the same. YOU HAVE ANALYZED SIMILARLY OTHERs but not Floyd. That is the issue here.



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[B Phontain]

Sure Floyd won but:
Floyd vs Ortiz will be remembered by the SUCKER PUNCH nothing more. Go check out the commentators on what they thought.

I don't need to go anywhere as I know that Clottey was ranked.

Ranked or not, I would pick Cotto, Clottey, Oscar, Marquez 2X, Bradley 2X over those who Floyd fought.

You as a Floyd fan doesn't want to analyze anything because those phony ranked list that you brought up would all come crumbling down. All you need to do is check out where each on of them were just before their hyped up fight and that is all she wrote.

Actually, I have been saying what you having been saying for many years. It's all a sham. Only Floyd fans believe it because that is all they can rely on.
Take away that 1 or 2 fights, they have NOTHING! Very few had any consistency at WW. That is much more revealing than you stat. Others have said the same. YOU HAVE ANALYZED SIMILARLY OTHERs but not Floyd. That is the issue here.

hold up, hold up.....you would take the oscar at 147 that manny fought over who floyd fought? really?

and you keep bringing up this consistency thing in your arguments, but you name bradley as one of pacs best wins at ww.... how many fights did Bradley have at ww before he fought pac?

[carts]

Ring Magazine voted Manny Fighter of the year thrice in the year 2000-2009 voted Floyd only once! in 2007.. wahahahahahah

[ADP02]

hold up, hold up.....you would take the oscar at 147 that manny fought over who floyd fought? really?

and you keep bringing up this consistency thing in your arguments, but you name bradley as one of pacs best wins at ww.... how many fights did Bradley have at ww before he fought pac?

If Oscar fought lets say Baldomir, Oscar would not be looking to increase his speed and therefore would not have made the mistake of coming into the fight so light. So yes, I would have picked Oscar over most if not all those who Floyd fought.

Bradley: You have a point and if you look at my history or just this post you will know my stance on that. Everyone was saying back then that Manny hadn't fought a hungry young lion that can move well and so on like Bradley. Even people like Max Kellerman thought that Manny would have big time trouble and thought that Manny could lose that fight. So from that perspective, Manny fought someone that everyone wanted to see how Manny would perform.

But to answer your question, I told people then and will tell you the same. I would have preferred that Bradley come up and fight at WW more to prove himself. Yes, he was a top P4P fighters and the guy to beat at JWW but that doesn't translate that he can do it at 147. Then Manny fought Bradley again who beat Marquez and had more experience ........ a better scenario.


BUT, if you look at the list of who is who, I pick Manny's opponents any day of the week. Manny had more established WW than Floyd. Manny had better opposition than Floyd. Floyd's opponents got their fight due to a hyped up fight, marketing and throws out these lines which Floyd fans parrot:

- ".... but Marquez is a top P4P fighter." Only after he realized that nobody from the media was buying it did he change to another excuse which was worse than the first! Some Floyd fans are so gullible.



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