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  • KnickTillDeaTh
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    #111
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    No doubt that if thurman can land consistently, he will hurt, drop, and maybe stop brook.., but problem is he may not land enough... He didn't stop bundu, so it's not unreasonable to think brook would last 12...

    I think both are close in talent, different fighting styles but very close talent and skill levels... I just like brooks jab over Thurman's punching power
    Thanks for being real. I am one of those people who do not believe any one boxer is unbeatable. I also believe Thurman beats Brook but i wont say its a sure thing because While I wouldn't (yet) consider Brook elite, he is definitely not a bum. The problem I have had is the numerous posters that trash Thurman for no apparent reason. The guy is still developing and some of the things I read is utter nonsense. so kudos.

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      #112
      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
      Thanks for being real. I am one of those people who do not believe any one boxer is unbeatable. I also believe Thurman beats Brook but i wont say its a sure thing because While I wouldn't (yet) consider Brook elite, he is definitely not a bum. The problem I have had is the numerous posters that trash Thurman for no apparent reason. The guy is still developing and some of the things I read is utter nonsense. so kudos.
      Cool, no problem... I just call it how I see it..


      I want to see thurman beat a top guy before I can consider him a true player at welter,,, brook has the Porter fight under his belt and that experience, along with the learning experiences vs Carson jones 1,2 and senchko, and you can see brook peaking as a fighter and putting it all together in the Porter fight.., Thurman has yet to take that next step up to see what he is really made of... I really hope he fights Maidana, Porter, or brook next because those are ideal fights to see just how good he is

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        #113
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
        The only fan boy here is you. Im defending Thurman over the B.S and nonsensical crap that you and others have spewed on this board. Degrading Thurman and propping up Brook because Brook got 1 win over Porter. You brought up what Brook had done first and I responded, or did you conveniently forget that?
        How have I criticized Thurman? I've maintained he's a world class fighter. In this thread even. But he needs to prove it.

        I said brook vs Khan is a bigger fight than Thurman vs Khan. Which it is. Infinitely bigger.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          Cool, no problem... I just call it how I see it..


          I want to see thurman beat a top guy before I can consider him a true player at welter,,, brook has the Porter fight under his belt and that experience, along with the learning experiences vs Carson jones 1,2 and senchko, and you can see brook peaking as a fighter and putting it all together in the Porter fight.., Thurman has yet to take that next step up to see what he is really made of... I really hope he fights Maidana, Porter, or brook next because those are ideal fights to see just how good he is
          Well I think aside from Porter, both their resumes are schit. But Thurman does have good wins if you want to be picky, Soto Karass coming off 2 big wins against Aydin and Berto - Thurman KO, Julio Diaz who Khan looked unimpressive against and fought Porter to a draw - Thurman KO, Leanord Bundu an extensive amateur career and a huge win against Gavin, and the fight which I think Thurman doesnt get enough credit for is his knock out victory over Diego Chavez, who has proven to be one hell of an contender, made Rios cry and just fought Bradley to a draw.

          Both resumes are schit, I give Brook credit for his victory over a highly ranked overrated opponent in Porter, I give Thurman credit for his victory over an underrated opponent in Diego Chavez.

          I also think that people down play Thurman's opponents because of the manner in which he defeats them for example, everyone talked up Diego Chavez vs Bradley, yet there hasnt been acknowledgement of Thurmans knock out victory over Chavez. Julio Diaz was talked up for his draw with Porter and his showing against Khan, but when it comes to Thurman Julio Diaz is a nobody (I feel he has always been a nobody) and most recently Alexander gets credit for his win against Soto Karass while Thurman Knocked out karass. It just seems like a double standard.

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          • yoz
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            #115
            Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
            Thanks for being real. I am one of those people who do not believe any one boxer is unbeatable. I also believe Thurman beats Brook but i wont say its a sure thing because While I wouldn't (yet) consider Brook elite, he is definitely not a bum. The problem I have had is the numerous posters that trash Thurman for no apparent reason. The guy is still developing and some of the things I read is utter nonsense. so kudos.
            Its about as much nonsense as posters saying Thurman has earned a shot at Mayweather, while, at the same time, calling on Khan to do more.

            Thurman may be a great boxer - heck, I think he has potential - but until he steps in the ring with a live challenger, there's absolutely no evidence to suggest he 'destroys/brutalises/KOs' Brook or Khan.

            Both of the above, whether you like it or not, have fought better opposition that 'One Time'.

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              #116
              Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
              Well I think aside from Porter, both their resumes are schit. But Thurman does have good wins if you want to be picky, Soto Karass coming off 2 big wins against Aydin and Berto - Thurman KO, Julio Diaz who Khan looked unimpressive against and fought Porter to a draw - Thurman KO, Leanord Bundu an extensive amateur career and a huge win against Gavin, and the fight which I think Thurman doesnt get enough credit for is his knock out victory over Diego Chavez, who has proven to be one hell of an contender, made Rios cry and just fought Bradley to a draw.

              Both resumes are schit, I give Brook credit for his victory over a highly ranked overrated opponent in Porter, I give Thurman credit for his victory over an underrated opponent in Diego Chavez.

              I also think that people down play Thurman's opponents because of the manner in which he defeats them for example, everyone talked up Diego Chavez vs Bradley, yet there hasnt been acknowledgement of Thurmans knock out victory over Chavez. Julio Diaz was talked up for his draw with Porter and his showing against Khan, but when it comes to Thurman Julio Diaz is a nobody (I feel he has always been a nobody) and most recently Alexander gets credit for his win against Soto Karass while Thurman Knocked out karass. It just seems like a double standard.
              The same Frankie Gavin who got a gift in his last, domestic-level, fight with Bradley Skeete?

              See, all this BS triangle theory stuff doesn't work. When Khan fought Judah, posters on here called Zab shot-to-****. But when Danny Garcia fought him it was OK. When Khan fought Julio Diaz (yes, the guy who drew with Porter months earlier), he was labelled a bum. But, for Thurman, it's cool.

              Pull your head out, man.

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                #117
                Comparing the Bundu fight to Brook is wrong, because Brook is not that mobile.

                Bundu was use his feet to back out of range whenever Thurman was throwing combinations.

                Plus, Brook will not be fighting to survive. He will have to engage. I think Thurman would beat Brook. But Brook is ducking this fight as everything him and his promoter have said indicates.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by yoz
                  Its about as much nonsense as posters saying Thurman has earned a shot at Mayweather, while, at the same time, calling on Khan to do more.

                  Thurman may be a great boxer - heck, I think he has potential - but until he steps in the ring with a live challenger, there's absolutely no evidence to suggest he 'destroys/brutalises/KOs' Brook or Khan.

                  Both of the above, whether you like it or not, have fought better opposition that 'One Time'.
                  Agreed, there is no reason why anyone should argue that Mayweather should fight Thurman other then its his WBA mandatory, but we all know that Mandatory does not apply to Mayweather. But deserves based on opponents nope.

                  Now Khan has a better Resume then both while Thurman and Brook have pretty much the same schit resume with the exception of Porter. Thurman deserves credit for his win against Diego Chavez though Chavez was not ranked as high as Porter but Chavez is probably going to be ranked higher now.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Heavyfist
                    Comparing the Bundu fight to Brook is wrong, because Brook is not that mobile.

                    Bundu was use his feet to back out of range whenever Thurman was throwing combinations.

                    Plus, Brook will not be fighting to survive. He will have to engage. I think Thurman would beat Brook. But Brook is ducking this fight as everything him and his promoter have said indicates.


                    Jesus man. Log off and stay off.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                      Agreed, there is no reason why anyone should argue that Mayweather should fight Thurman other then its his WBA mandatory, but we all know that Mandatory does not apply to Mayweather. But deserves based on opponents nope.

                      Now Khan has a better Resume then both while Thurman and Brook have pretty much the same schit resume with the exception of Porter. Thurman deserves credit for his win against Diego Chavez though Chavez was not ranked as high as Porter but Chavez is probably going to be ranked higher now.
                      Yeah the undefeated Porter who was ranked #5 in the division, was said to be a brute and future mayweather opponent who was coming off dominant wins over a world champion and a former world champion pretty much means nothing.

                      Makes sense.

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