i dont think anyone was really ducking thurman to be honest with you just cause thurman says hell fight someone dont mean fights were offered maybe guerrero but i dont think he ducked him cause he was scared i think it was more a case of needing to get back on track before taking a big fight. i just dont buy this ducking talk from fighters as much as i used to cause these days it always ends up being bs
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I read the post in its entirety and it didn't make sense. Nobody bigged up Diaz for Khan or Porter. But Thurman clearly handled him better.
You clearly did say that Bundu had a huge win over Gavin. It's right there, why are you denying it? It wasn't huge at all. And Bundu isn't really a very impressive win. It's more like a resume filler. And wouldn't have been anything on Porter, Khan's or Brook's resume.
Who built up Bradley vs Chaves? No one on this site that's for sure.
We all know what Chaves is. He's a rough fighter but he's not beating anyone elite.
Bradley, Khan, Brook and Porter all have decisively better resumes than Thurman at this point.
This will be my last response to you because you conveniently picking and choosing things to argue and using them out of context is trolling. I was responding to a post where Brook was being given credit for fringe wins,(not Porter) I pointed out that if we were to be picky we can point out reasons why someone could say some of Thurmans wins are good wins, reasons that I dont agree with, proven by my acknowledgment that Thurman has a schit resume, which is also why I dont consider Brooks "fringe" wins credit worthy.
Another poster responded by pointing out one of these reasons does not make sense Bundu defeating Gavin as a huge win which in turn makes defeating Bundu a huge win for Thurman. which was my damn point that it doesnt matter because the resume is schit. Brooks resume is Schit with the exception of his victory over Porter. Thurman resume is schit but I give him more credit then most for defeating Chavez.
This is me releasing your hand I cant walk you through this any more.Comment
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Nobody was giving Brook credit for any of his wins though. That's just not true. Everyone said his resume was crap which it was.This will be my last response to you because you conveniently picking and choosing things to argue and using them out of context is trolling. I was responding to a post where Brook was being given credit for fringe wins,(not Porter) I pointed out that if we were to be picky we can point out reasons why someone could say some of Thurmans wins are good wins, reasons that I dont agree with, proven by my acknowledgment that Thurman has a schit resume, which is also why I dont consider Brooks "fringe" wins credit worthy.
Another poster responded by pointing out one of these reasons does not make sense Bundu defeating Gavin as a huge win which in turn makes defeating Bundu a huge win for Thurman. which was my damn point that it doesnt matter because the resume is schit. Brooks resume is Schit with the exception of his victory over Porter. Thurman resume is schit but I give him more credit then most for defeating Chavez.
This is me releasing your hand I cant walk you through this any more.
So now you're just making stuff up.Comment
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I like Thurman in that one, Brook impressed the heck out of me against Porter, a fight I didn't think he could win, also reminded me of Mayweather in how he operated that night. I just think Thurman will step outside Brook's jabbing range and come back with his own counters. It's a damn good fight but right now it's frustrating to be a fan of Thurman when no one is willing to give him the opportunity.Comment
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Maidana was a real duck though. I dont usually believe in these ducking claims but Maidana's team agreed in principle to fight Thurman after there first choice didnt pan out, they selected Thurman because they didnt know who he was. After finding out who Thurman was they pulled out of the fight eluding to an Al Haymon conspiracy and saying they just wanted a tune up, Then they went on full PR spin saying that Maidana was going to fight Canelo which is why the fight with Thurman wasnt happening, to which GBP said ahhh nope thats not true, then Maidana went on to fight 2 tune ups.i dont think anyone was really ducking thurman to be honest with you just cause thurman says hell fight someone dont mean fights were offered maybe guerrero but i dont think he ducked him cause he was scared i think it was more a case of needing to get back on track before taking a big fight. i just dont buy this ducking talk from fighters as much as i used to cause these days it always ends up being bs
Guerrero is arguable turned down a fight with Thurman claiming the Money wasnt enough then went on to fight for far less money. I dont know if i would call that Ducking more like avoiding for now. lol.Comment
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Is it just me or am I the only one who thinks its funny that both thurman and porter both fought at higher weights in the ams, i think porters fought at 154 as a pro, but both had to come down to 147 to be what? COMPETITIVE! unfortunately both r still not that impressive.
give credit to brook for beating porter the way he did, clinch who cares, its boxing, you aint gna let no pressure fighter do whatever on the inside lol.
thurman did goo against bundu, i do feel like he could have been more offensive, only time he hurt bundu was when he sat down on his hook in the first round. Other than that he throws half power when hes moving.
Thurman vs maidana, maidan would beat him. Honestly, lets see thurman vs either berto, ortiz, or guerrero at this point. Nice step up for him either way even if it one of those 3.Comment
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I think Khan is a bigger name than Bradley in the US already. Brook v Khan is bigger than anything for Khan other than Pac or FM financially speaking. I wouldn't imagine he would get less than 5m which is probably what FM gives him. However that fight is only big because of Khan. His fans and those who will pay to see him lose. If he had to choose right now, he would pick Bradley as Brad is a bigger name in USA and will increase his chances of the big big fights.Bradley brings a bigger American fan base and a bigger purse with possible PPV in America. Khan wants to be a major boxing star and he understands he needs the American consumer to do that, so he will fight the fighter that gets him closer to that goal. Khan will get more money fighting Brook most likely because of the live gate, but as I said Khan wants the American notoriety and Bradley gets home that.Comment
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I think Khan is a bigger name than Bradley in the US already. Brook v Khan is bigger than anything for Khan other than Pac or FM financially speaking. I wouldn't imagine he would get less than 5m which is probably what FM gives him. However that fight is only big because of Khan. His fans and those who will pay to see him lose. If he had to choose right now, he would pick Bradley as Brad is a bigger name in USA and will increase his chances of the big big fights.
This is my point exactly, but be warned bro i just went like 10 pages defending this view lol.Comment
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Why would Khan get $5million when Maidana got $1million?I think Khan is a bigger name than Bradley in the US already. Brook v Khan is bigger than anything for Khan other than Pac or FM financially speaking. I wouldn't imagine he would get less than 5m which is probably what FM gives him. However that fight is only big because of Khan. His fans and those who will pay to see him lose. If he had to choose right now, he would pick Bradley as Brad is a bigger name in USA and will increase his chances of the big big fights.Comment
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Khan is a millionaire many times over. He will chase the big names n it the money. Although the two often come in a pair.Bradley was the opponent. He can't do a PPV on his own merit. I am telling you now, categorically, that Khan-Bradley would not be on HBO PPV.
No one really knows who Thurman is either. You do realise that Khan and Brook can make $5m each fighting each other? And that doesn't even take into account PPV revenue. How can Thurman compete with that?Comment
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