Comments Thread For: Brook's Promoter Confident Kell Beats Keith Thurman

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Name a world class boxer that 114 out of 114 boxing experts picked to beat Brook (most by KO) and who almost killed Paulie Malignaggi.

Here's a hint: It's Shawn Porter.

Which is totally irrelevant. Porter was a little overrated. He had glaring flaws long before the Brook fight and Paulie was past his prime and had no power. Meanwhile, people underestimated Brook because he, like Bundu, was a much smaller name.

Now after Brook beat Porter, he's suddenly a "world caliber" guy? That's how boxers are overrated.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Shawn Porter?

Lol at you changing the criteria. ffs, embarrassing.

Porter doesnt have power in both hands, he is not a counter puncher, and he is not technically sound. He does not have fast hands and he is not ring smart. And would never find me in a post where i said otherwise. as a matter of fact I called Porter overrated before he beat Malanaggi and after. The "experts" you are talking about were speaking of porters bobbing and weaving and the use of that to get inside and ****, then the TART's on this site ran with it then began to **** on him when Brook beat him. who by the way i Had Brook winning by 3 rounds. So no this is not the fighter that answers the question. which was in response to the other poster which im sure you did not read.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Malignaggi was his voluntary defence and Brook was his mandatory. He had to fight Brook.

Your right it must have been before the Malanaggi fight.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Brook didn't "easily" beat Porter. That was a close fight that Brook barely got the win.

What makes you think Thurman can deal wi brooks jab and skill?



Brook has never fought an opponent like Thurman before. You say Thurman is limited but how? Thurman has power in both hands, good boxing skills and can even switch between southpaw and orthodox.

Like I said, I don't see Brook handling Thurman's handspeed either.[/QUOTE]



1.. Brook pretty much dominated Porter and made him look sloppy, amateurish and one dimensional

2. Thurman is limited because if you really understand the mechanics and nuances of boxing it's clear as day that thurman is versatile but he doesn't stand out in any area which will be his downfall..
Example: thurman was forced to box vs chavez because chavez was there to ****, Thurman made the adjustment and he has enough skills to box from a distance vs a ****er, and when faced with a boxer he is capable of turning into a power punching hunter.. But he has yet to face a world class fighter, and vs brooks, Thurman will be forced into a power punching hunter mode, and will walk into the jab all night long..

I'm not saying Thurman is a scrub, he is a true contender, no doubt..
I think he could beat rios, Alvarado, Porter, because he has superior technical skill, and I think he could hunt down alexander, khan, pauli, Bradley, because he is a good power puncher, but faced with a really good jab and size that brook possesses, I think Thurman turns into the power puncher to hunt brook down but comes up short because he will have no answer for brooks jab, and that will be the difference maker

[sicko]

Thurman got what he wanted with the Bundu Performance...

Now everybody has found their Balls and is bold enough to jump in with Thurman...Thurman hit the ***in Jack Pot!

Next opponent unfortunately will find out the HARD WAY that the Bundu fight might have been STRATEGICALLY DONE or Bundu is a lot tougher than they gave him credit for vs Thurman

[KnickTillDeaTh]

What makes you think Thurman can deal wi brooks jab and skill?



Brook has never fought an opponent like Thurman before. You say Thurman is limited but how? Thurman has power in both hands, good boxing skills and can even switch between southpaw and orthodox.

Like I said, I don't see Brook handling Thurman's handspeed either.

1.. Brook pretty much dominated Porter and made him look sloppy, amateurish and one dimensional

2. Thurman is limited because if you really understand the mechanics and nuances of boxing it's clear as day that thurman is versatile but he doesn't stand out in any area which will be his downfall..
Example: thurman was forced to box vs chavez because chavez was there to ****, Thurman made the adjustment and he has enough skills to box from a distance vs a ****er, and when faced with a boxer he is capable of turning into a power punching hunter.. But he has yet to face a world class fighter, and vs brooks, Thurman will be forced into a power punching hunter mode, and will walk into the jab all night long..

I'm not saying Thurman is a scrub, he is a true contender, no doubt..
I think he could beat rios, Alvarado, Porter, because he has superior technical skill, and I think he could hunt down alexander, khan, pauli, Bradley, because he is a good power puncher, but faced with a really good jab and size that brook possesses, I think Thurman turns into the power puncher to hunt brook down but comes up short because he will have no answer for brooks jab, and that will be the difference maker[/QUOTE]


Doesnt stand out in any area. He has knock out power in both hands, which he can deliver off his back foot or front foot. Moving or flat footed. How is that not standing out. He is also a very good counter puncher, which is what he identifies with, he considers himself a power counter puncher. I question how much you've seen him fight?

[LacedUp]

Your a fool bro. Read my post i clearly wrote that all those wins mean nothing except for Porter, and except for Porter the Resumes are alike. Brook was Alexanders Mandatory, Brook got injured , and after Alexander lost there is no indication that Brook was a forced Mandatory for Porter. A lot of times after a boxer wins a world title for the first time they have an option to defend that title in a voluntary defense before they fight their mandatory. Being that Porter turned down a fight with Thurman saying that he wasnt happy with the money offered for that fight and subsequently went on to fight his Mandatory would indicate that he may have had a voluntary defense option. From what i remember there was never an order from the IBF for Porter to defend against his Mandatory.

Except that a letter was sent to Porter after his victory against Alexander, saying he had to fight Brook within 90 days. He filed for an extension and he got it based on fighting brook within a certain amount of days after his voluntary.

So yes, there was pretty clear and concise evidence that the mandatory was enforced.

Which is totally irrelevant. Porter was a little overrated. He had glaring flaws long before the Brook fight and Paulie was past his prime and had no power. Meanwhile, people underestimated Brook because he, like Bundu, was a much smaller name.

Now after Brook beat Porter, he's suddenly a "world caliber" guy? That's how boxers are overrated.

Yeah after Brook exposed them. Before he fought brook he would have given Mayweather a fight and according to some, beat him.

Brook has been world class for a while, he just needed to prove it. Same situation Thurman is in now.

Porter doesnt have power in both hands, he is not a counter puncher, and he is not technically sound. He does not have fast hands and he is not ring smart. And would never find me in a post where i said otherwise. as a matter of fact I called Porter overrated before he beat Malanaggi and after. The "experts" you are talking about were speaking of porters bobbing and weaving and the use of that to get inside and ****, then the TART's on this site ran with it then began to **** on him when Brook beat him. who by the way i Had Brook winning by 3 rounds. So no this is not the fighter that answers the question. which was in response to the other poster which im sure you did not read.

He most definitely has power in both hands. Did you see the left hooks he he hit Alexander and Paulie with? Ffs you're embarrassing yourself.

He most definitely has fast hands.

Brooks win over Porter simply smokes whatever Thurman has done in his entire life.

[mjgaz6]

I love it when a fighter runs all night like Lara or Keith Thurman and people call it a master class performance. And then somehow have the gall to accuse those that don't agree with them of not understanding the sport of boxing. Keith Thurman got exposed and I was there to proudly boo him on. Trust me, the first time that man steps in the ring with a fighter with both speed and technical ability that can take a punch - he'll be exposed.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

1.. Brook pretty much dominated Porter and made him look sloppy, amateurish and one dimensional

2. Thurman is limited because if you really understand the mechanics and nuances of boxing it's clear as day that thurman is versatile but he doesn't stand out in any area which will be his downfall..
Example: thurman was forced to box vs chavez because chavez was there to ****, Thurman made the adjustment and he has enough skills to box from a distance vs a ****er, and when faced with a boxer he is capable of turning into a power punching hunter.. But he has yet to face a world class fighter, and vs brooks, Thurman will be forced into a power punching hunter mode, and will walk into the jab all night long..

I'm not saying Thurman is a scrub, he is a true contender, no doubt..
I think he could beat rios, Alvarado, Porter, because he has superior technical skill, and I think he could hunt down alexander, khan, pauli, Bradley, because he is a good power puncher, but faced with a really good jab and size that brook possesses, I think Thurman turns into the power puncher to hunt brook down but comes up short because he will have no answer for brooks jab, and that will be the difference maker

Doesnt stand out in any area. He has knock out power in both hands, which he can deliver off his back foot or front foot. Moving or flat footed. How is that not standing out. He is also a very good counter puncher, which is what he identifies with, he considers himself a power counter puncher. I question how much you've seen him fight?[/QUOTE]


I say he doesn't stand out as a ****er or a boxer, but can do both well, but not world class..

If ****ing he would get out ****** by a mayorga, margarito, tito,, any true world class ****er

And if he is boxing, he gets outboxed by floyd, Marquez, Cory spinks, or any world class boxer type...

Thurman is effective because he can adapt, but he isn't great at ****ing or boxing,, good at both but not great at either, and a world class ****er or boxer should beat him.. He just hasn't faced one yet,,,


I just don't see how Thurman would have an answer for brooks jab and brook has the soze to match Thurman's..

All things even between two fighters I will take the guy with the better jab..
It's the most effective punch in boxing when used properly, and I will take the better jabber over the better power puncher everytime...

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[KnickTillDeaTh]

Except that a letter was sent to Porter after his victory against Alexander, saying he had to fight Brook within 90 days. He filed for an extension and he got it based on fighting brook within a certain amount of days after his voluntary.

So yes, there was pretty clear and concise evidence that the mandatory was enforced.



Yeah after Brook exposed them. Before he fought brook he would have given Mayweather a fight and according to some, beat him.

Brook has been world class for a while, he just needed to prove it. Same situation Thurman is in now.



He most definitely has power in both hands. Did you see the left hooks he he hit Alexander and Paulie with? Ffs you're embarrassing yourself.

He most definitely has fast hands.

Brooks win over Porter simply smokes whatever Thurman has done in his entire life.

Already admitted i was wrong about the Mandatory in an earlier post.

Now as for the rest I can tell the hate is strong with you because you are seriously going to sit here and compare Porters power to Thurmans. What ever you need to talk up Brook right? Do you know how Porter got his shot against Alexander, Porter defeated Julio Diaz in a tough fight by decision after fighting to a draw with Diaz when they first fought. The same Julio Diaz that Thurman walked over.