Comments Thread For: Arum and De La Hoya on May 2nd: That's Canelo's Date

[ThePrince]

Floyd/canelo was in september

It was another Mexican Holiday, my mistake.

Point still stands- makes more financial sense for Mexican fighters to fight on Mexican holidays. A Black and Filipino fighter will see no financial effect by fighting on Mexican holidays, especially not Floyd-Pac.

[IronDanHamza]

No you haven't. I asked you one simple question and I'm still waiting for you to answer.

There's no financial benefit to a Black American and a Filipino fighting on a Mexican Holiday. Floyd-Oscar and Floyd-Canelo were on Cinco de Mayo, featured 2 Mexican superstars and both were record breaking fights. Floyd-Maidan was on the same weekend and Showtime/GBP will never release those buy figures. Lotta good it did to have a non Mexican fight then.



They can change their date, but no one involved (outside of maybe the Puerto Rican Cotto) wants to. So that leaves Floyd with the dilemma of competing with a non Mexican opponent or moving his date with little or no difference financially.

What is preventing him from doing the latter?


Any time now.

Yes it does, obviously.

Having the fight on that date maximises the revenue that is a fact.

You are flat out ******ed to think otherwise. "Little to no difference financially"

What is your question, what do you want answering that I haven't already?

Why the hell does Arum care if no one wants to move from that date? What does that have to do with Arum if none of them want it moved? HIS own fighter you just said is the only one that would want it moved

You keep asking "What's stopping them from moving it?" WHY would they move it? Why? There is no logical reasoning to move that date especially "because it's Canelo's" a guy that's not even his fighter.

[HanzGruber]

It was another Mexican Holiday, my mistake.

Point still stands- makes more financial sense for Mexican fighters to fight on Mexican holidays. A Black and Filipino fighter will see no financial effect by fighting on Mexican holidays, especially not Floyd-Pac.

It makes more financial sense to have canelo cotto instea of PAC floyd? Lmao

[IronDanHamza]

It was another Mexican Holiday, my mistake.

Point still stands- makes more financial sense for Mexican fighters to fight on Mexican holidays. A Black and Filipino fighter will see no financial effect by fighting on Mexican holidays, especially not Floyd-Pac.

Ok so clearly you have no idea what you're talking about.

Cinco De Mayo is the biggest date in Boxing.

Having Mayweather-Pacquaio on that date will obviously maximise the revenue.

That is basic common sense.

[Ray*]

If I was Floyd I would start calling out Bob Arum.....UGH I fcking HATE ARUM

No point to be honest. Most rational people know Arum does not want the fight for Pac, the problem is the few that doesn't are the loudest, i still don't understand how you can move from "Let's make the fight no more excuses" to "the date is for another fighter" lol, I thought this is the fight that everyone wanted, I thought everyone stops for this fight... Obviously not Arum.

[IronDanHamza]

Floyd been fighting on this day for like past 4 years.....And he said lets fight Manny on May 2nd cuz he feel like Canelo trying to steal his date....So Canelo need to move aside....But why is Arum siding with canelo? BOB Arum at his finest

It couldn't make less sense that's the funniest thing.

Cotto apparently says he doesn't even want to fight on that date.

So why and for what reason would Arum care about Canelo having that date?

His excuse here is "it's disrespectful" to Mexicans but that's obviously a load of crap because he put Pacquaio-Mosley on that date.

Embarrassing from Arum and embarrassing from the TS. Embarrassing all round.

[ThePrince]

Yes it does, obviously.

Having the fight on that date maximises the revenue that is a fact.

How is that a 'fact' exactly? It maximizes profit for Mexican fighters, for obvious reasons. Which is why Canelo wants that date for himself. Why is it that Floyd fighting an Argentinian on that date led Showtime to decide to no longer release Floyd's PPV numbers?

Non Mexican fighters staging a bout on that date makes no financial difference at all. Pac-Floyd makes record money any weekend or even weekday next year. Cinco de Mayo would have little to no effect on buys.

What is your question, what do you want answering that I haven't already?

What reason is there for Mayweather-Pacquiao to not be staged on any weekend next year besides 'Cinco de Mayweather'?

Why the hell does Arum care if no one wants to move from that date? What does that have to do with Arum if none of them want it moved? HIS own fighter you just said is the only one that would want it moved

Because Canelo-Cotto, featuring the biggest Mexican star in Boxing, maximizes its profits on Cinco de Mayo weekend. Cotto being a Puerto Rican might feel alienated by the pro Mexican crowds/date/etc but PR day parade weekend pales in comparison to May 2nd.

Floyd-Pac makes record money any random day of next year. Canelo-Cotto makes the most money on Cinco de Mayo weekend (or Mexican Independence Day in Sept, but they won't wait that long).

So having Canelo-Cotto on that weekend and Pac-Floyd another date maximizes Arum's profits. Simple as that.

Plus there's the added fact he knows Floyd is bull****ting and is check mating him yet again.

[IronDanHamza]

How is that a 'fact' exactly? It maximizes profit for Mexican fighters, for obvious reasons. Which is why Canelo wants that date for himself. Why is it that Floyd fighting an Argentinian on that date led Showtime to decide to no longer release Floyd's PPV numbers?

Non Mexican fighters staging a bout on that date makes no financial difference at all. Pac-Floyd makes record money any weekend or even weekday next year. Cinco de Mayo would have little to no effect on buys.





What reason is there for Mayweather-Pacquiao to not be staged on any weekend next year besides 'Cinco de Mayweather'?



Because Canelo-Cotto, featuring the biggest Mexican star in Boxing, maximizes its profits on Cinco de Mayo weekend. Cotto being a Puerto Rican might feel alienated by the pro Mexican crowds/date/etc but PR day parade weekend pales in comparison to May 2nd.

Floyd-Pac makes record money any random day of next year. Canelo-Cotto makes the most money on Cinco de Mayo weekend (or Mexican Independence Day in Sept, but they won't wait that long).

So having Canelo-Cotto on that weekend and Pac-Floyd another date maximizes Arum's profits. Simple as that.

Plus there's the added fact he knows Floyd is bull****ting and is check mating him yet again.

Err, because Mexicans are the largest boxing audience in the world perhaps? Maybe that's why? Good grief.

I've already answered your question, because it maximises the revenue. Again, factual. I can't put it any simpler for you.

Fact is, Arum is clearly talking nonsense, Canelo is not even his fighter so it beig "his date" is no concern to him.

Using that to try and say the fight "won't happen" is embarrassing and doesn't even make sense.

[ADP02]

i dont know maybe because hes the ppv king why cant cotto and canelo fight on another date?

If you say that Floyd is the king of PPV then he shouldn't care on which date his fight is on.

If you say that Floyd is the king of PPV then he shouldn't care if anyone else fights on that date.

[ThePrince]

Err, because Mexicans are the largest boxing audience in the world perhaps? Maybe that's why? Good grief.

Yes, and they tune in in record numbers for mega fights featuring Mexican fighters on Mexican holidays. Not so much for Argentinians

I've already answered your question, because it maximises the revenue. Again, factual. I can't put it any simpler for you.

Floyd fought an Argentinian on 2 separate Mexican Holidays this year (same dates he had record numbers against Mexican superstars)... how many buys did those two fights do?

Oh that's right, they were so great that Showtime decided to hide the #s from the public and rumors abound about them losing $16 million. Way to maximize profits.

Again, a Black guy fighting a Filipino on a Mexican Holiday will have little to no effect on the bottom line.

Fact is, Arum is clearly talking nonsense, Canelo is not even his fighter so it beig "his date" is no concern to him.

Using that to try and say the fight "won't happen" is embarrassing and doesn't even make sense.

When did Arum say that?

Just said not on May 2nd... which brings us to the age old question:

What's the issue with the fight happening on a non Mexican Holiday?