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  • megadeth
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    #181
    Originally posted by megadeth
    Arum is talking to Les Moonves, who isn't a Billionaire. Floyd is possibly worth as much or more than he is.
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    Me too. I said homeboy was a billionaire, I was wrong. You said he made less than Floyd, that's wrong and you've yet to admit that lol. But, Moonves is the one in control of BILLIONS of dollars whether he is one himself or not he doesn't have to answer to Floyd for anything at all, Floyd however, does.
    Reading is fundamental. Where did I say he makes less than Floyd and why would I admit something I didn't? They have a contract, so they both have to answer to each other for holding up their end of the contract. Now was there REALLY any need for insults?

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #182
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I agree Espinoza is a clown. No, he shouldn't have to get involved but these are not your average fighters. you are dealing with Manny/Bob who keep refusing deals and win the PR war.

      Floyd has never once said what you posted so come on dude.

      The bottom line is as of this post-CBS is still prepared to pay Floyd the $70 mil they owe him for the last 2 fights on the deal. Until this changes- Anyone arguing they are not making money or are unhappy is speculating purely because its Floyd.

      Another point-CBS has kept Floyd on even after all the negative press since DV has become a major issue. They didn't let him go after the ray rice quotes, Rachel Nichols interview, fight game crap, etc. Why would they keep someone with such a negative image if they weren't making profit?
      They are prepared to pay Floyd, but I think it's obvious this time that they'll only pay for Manny and MAYBE Cotto, otherwise these talks wouldn't be taking place. The $70 million investment, if they can get 2 Manny fights out of it will more than make up what they put it, but it's only worth it in that case. If Floyd doesn't fight Manny or Cotto not only would I be shocked, I doubt, again if it's not one of them two, he even fights on Showtime.

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      • bigjavi973
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        #183
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Did I fail math? Should I embarrass you right now or do you wanna stop pretending you know what you're talking about?
        *** it go for broke enlighten us!!

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        • IMDAZED
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          #184
          Originally posted by - Righteous -
          I'm not trying to simplify anything. You're the only overcomplicating things. Here's the cold hard undeniable figure.

          Mayweather's purse for each fight 41.5 Million

          Opponent's Purse: 5-10 million

          That's around 50 million on fighter purses alone.
          First of all, Mayweather's purse varies on a fight to fight basis. So the $41.5m is something you pulled out your ass. There was speculation that the deal could earn him up to 200-250m. Speculation.

          Second, his opponents don't average $10m either. For instance, Maidana's guarantee was $1.5m, with some PPV upside (a little more for the rematch).

          Finally...how does this # show you that PPV #'s have to hit 1m in order for Showtime to break even? Go ahead, tell me.

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          • Mayabang
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            #185
            These two fuckers should just fight. Make a public announcement for an agreed contract for a TRILOGY, make the most money in their lifetime, then retire for good.

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            • Beater_of_ass
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              #186
              Originally posted by megadeth
              Reading is fundamental. Where did I say he makes less than Floyd and why would I admit something I didn't? They have a contract, so they both have to answer to each other for holding up their end of the contract. Now was there REALLY any need for insults?
              Originally posted by megadeth
              Arum is talking to Les Moonves, who isn't a Billionaire. Floyd is possibly worth as much or more than he is.
              Right there.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #187
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                First of all, Mayweather's purse varies on a fight to fight basis. So the $41.5m is something you pulled out your ass. There was speculation that the deal could earn him up to 200-250m. Speculation.

                Second, his opponents don't average $10m either. For instance, Maidana's guarantee was $1.5m, with some PPV upside (a little more for the rematch).

                Finally...how does this # show you that PPV #'s have to hit 1m in order for Showtime to break even? Go ahead, tell me.
                I did it for him. Floyd purse does fluctuate, his guarantee does not. He is guaranteed 32 million a fight, which would be 1 million buys to cover sorely his purse. That's not even assuming he gets a cut of PPV, which I don't think he would unless it's over 1 million. I hope not anyway otherwise Showtime is dumber than I thought.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Well... first of all, who said Al is going back to NBC? Let's assume he does, do you know who owns HBO? NBC does. You think NBC is going to put faith in Al Haymon on free TV when they took them off of the #1 channel for boxing in US? BWAHAHA!!!!! Come on man...

                  Floyd does draw in a lot of money, but he keeps it all for himself and when you do that people don't want to work with you. This is why THE FIGHT is trying to be made because Floyd's drawing power has gone down a lot since he days of 1 million PPV's. Yeah, he's had more than 2 million buys twice now, but he also hasn't hit a million in 3 out of the last 4.
                  GE and US cable TV operator Comcast announced a buyout agreement for the company on December 3, 2009. Following regulatory approvals, the transaction completed on January 28, 2011. Comcast subsequently owned 51% of NBCUniversal while GE owned 49%.

                  Huh? everything we've read is that the Main Events deal with NBCsports expired and Haymon has a deal in place. Could you be wrong yet again?

                  Everyone's drawing less on PPV with prices being so high-that said, Floyd is still far and away the #1 guy. So if CBS is going to stay involved with PPV boxing why would they do it without the #1 guy?

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                  • bigjavi973
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                    16,000 capacity structure...again read my initial post regarding this. If you simply google around about temporary structures it becomes clear that the costs surrounding temporary stadiums begin to increase greatly at capacities over 19,000. Why would they build a 16,000 seat outdoor stadium ala Frampton-Martinez when the MGM Grand has several thousand larger capacity than that already?
                    So you are saying that building an outdoor stadium for the BIGGEST fight possible in boxing history is not something that would make sense to do?

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                    • Strategic1
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                      #190
                      It's a no brainer. Floyd has 2 fights left. Negotiating a fight with PAC now leaves room for a rematch if called for.

                      2 Floyd-PAC fights maximize earnings.

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