Wlad was never better

[Weltschmerz]

I honestly can't see how anyone could make a solid case for today's Wlad being on the same level as the one that fought Chagaev, Peter in both fights or Haye.

He's slower on his feet, punch stats have diminished slightly and punch variation isn't the same.

He's obviously still clearly the best, but I think he looked a bit better a few years ago. Especially his footwork.

I suspect it's because Steward used to train it like a maniac.

To the contrary, he looked very light and mobile vs Pulev, was quick on his feet, threw a greater variety of punches. I don't know if you watched the fight, doesn't sound like it.

[LacedUp]

To the contrary, he looked very light and mobile vs Pulev, was quick on his feet, threw a greater variety of punches. I don't know if you watched the fight, doesn't sound like it.

Well unlike some I don't judge a fighter on his capabilities against a skillless robot.

He wasn't anywhere near as quick on his feet or threw as many punches against Pulev as he did against Chagaev for instance or Peter. I'm not saying he looked bad the other night, in fact, other than the expected clinching, I thought he looked good.

Still doesn't change the fact that he looked more like his age vs Povetkin, his best recent opponent than at any other time.

[Elroy1]

To the contrary, he looked very light and mobile vs Pulev, was quick on his feet, threw a greater variety of punches. I don't know if you watched the fight, doesn't sound like it.

He's just a ****ing hater.

It wouldn't matter if Wladimir outboxed a grizzly bear!

LacedUp and his "friends" will try and tell us that he looked like garbage doing it and the grizzly bear didn't have very good "footwork"

[Elroy1]

Well unlike some I don't judge a fighter on his capabilities against a skillless robot.

He wasn't anywhere near as quick on his feet or threw as many punches against Pulev as he did against Chagaev for instance or Peter. I'm not saying he looked bad the other night, in fact, other than the expected clinching, I thought he looked good.

Still doesn't change the fact that he looked more like his age vs Povetkin, his best recent opponent than at any other time.

I don't either.

I judged his performance against Kubrat Pulev, a 6'4" 240lb mountain of muscle with top level skills and a perfect record vs good opponents and who fought WK with intent. A hard punch and a strong chin.

A guy who would destroy any pre80's HW and atleast decision Foreman.

And he destroyed him.

[STEELHEAD]

im curious. there has to be at least one posititve thing you can say about wlad as a boxer? for a guy who won a gold medal and is 63-3 as a pro he must have something going for him right? or are you just a hater

its the level of compitition wlad has faced that makes his resume not as impressive to some. you don't have to be a hater to snicker when someone is talking up the klit.

[Weltschmerz]

Well unlike some I don't judge a fighter on his capabilities against a skillless robot.

He wasn't anywhere near as quick on his feet or threw as many punches against Pulev as he did against Chagaev for instance or Peter. I'm not saying he looked bad the other night, in fact, other than the expected clinching, I thought he looked good.

Still doesn't change the fact that he looked more like his age vs Povetkin, his best recent opponent than at any other time.

This is where you lose all credibility.

[Weltschmerz]

He's just a ****ing hater.

It wouldn't matter if Wladimir outboxed a grizzly bear!

LacedUp and his "friends" will try and tell us that he looked like garbage doing it and the grizzly bear didn't have very good "footwork"

LacedUp is still butt hurt about Vlad owning Haye

[LacedUp]

im curious. there has to be at least one posititve thing you can say about wlad as a boxer? for a guy who won a gold medal and is 63-3 as a pro he must have something going for him right? or are you just a hater

You've been calling a lot of people haters recently.

You are pretty decent poster, don't sink to the level of Weltschmerz and co.

[yoz]

Well unlike some I don't judge a fighter on his capabilities against a skillless robot.

He wasn't anywhere near as quick on his feet or threw as many punches against Pulev as he did against Chagaev for instance or Peter. I'm not saying he looked bad the other night, in fact, other than the expected clinching, I thought he looked good.

Still doesn't change the fact that he looked more like his age vs Povetkin, his best recent opponent than at any other time.

I agree; Wladimir is beginning to look his age. Thankfully, he still has enough in him to stay champ for a few years yet.

[LacedUp]

LacedUp is still butt hurt about Vlad owning Haye

You talk about Haye every day. I hardly ever mention him.

You have some kind of inferiority complex with me or him, maybe it's because I owned you in the dome and everybody laughed at you?