Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather?

[-PBP-]

What Hopkins did on Sat would be the equivalent of Floyd fighting a prime GGG at 49yrs old. Although both were LHW's, Kovalev was the much bigger man in that ring!

Reaching. Hop been at 175 for nearly a decade. Floyd has 0 fights at 160.

[rocky_balboa23]

He's not the first.

Rocky Marciano and Joe Calzaghes career are both tied to being undefeated, actually the only reason they are ever mentioned it because they were undefeated, as in this case.

Nothing special stands out about both careers, also nothing special stands out about Pac career either, he's a normal HOF.

B Hop has a ATG career.

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nothing stands out of Pac's career? are you kidding me? 8 division world champ. Barrera 2x, Morales 2x, Marquez 4x. even with these fights he already accomplished more than Floyd. but we are not talking about Pac here. As i've said Floyd is just an undefeated fighter. great fighter but still below Pac and Bhop

[IronDanHamza]

Reaching. Hop been at 175 for nearly a decade. Floyd has 0 fights at 160.

Plus Hopkins at 49 isn't the same as Floyd at 49.

Hopkins didn't win a world title until he was 29. He was still considered green at 28.

Floyd at 28 was a 4 weight Champion.

Like I said in the other thread, Hopkins is 49 and has been at the top level for 20 years. Floyd is 37 and has been at the top level 17 years.

[DeadLikeMe]

Reaching. Hop been at 175 for nearly a decade. Floyd has 0 fights at 160.

Reaching? It's just flat out wrong and a piss poor analogy. But that's the guy who scored Rigo - Donaire a draw, objectivity obviously isn't his strong suit.

[hugh grant]

i am telling all of you floyd fans right now. if Floyd losses that 0, his legacy would sink faster than the titanic coz floyd only banks his legacy on that "0". that "0" does not have enough substance to put him in the likes of Bhop or Pac

Floyds counting on that zero. But losses don't harm ATGs. If Floyd fights GGG and loses it wont be that bad as Floyd stepped up against a really really good fighter. Or if FLoyd loses but comes back to beat other great fighters still or rematches the guy he lost and beats them.

Pac never fought sergio either, why because he was just 2small....floyd is too small for GGG too, i dont even know why people are demanding that fight..maybe cause GGG said he can make 154 doe????if floyd is being pressured by the fans to fight GGG then manny should too.... floyd and manny have been fighting in the same weight class for 5 years straight now..

Pac is smaller than FLoyd, that is obvious, and currently Pac isn't p4p no1, so don't concentrate on what Pac should do, rather concentrate on Floyd in some way justifying his claim to be the best and Floyds claim TBE. SO just because FLoyd is pressure to fight so and so, doesn't mean to say Pac should as well.
Floyd is supposedly the best, yet fights less dangerous opponents than a 49 year old.?

Pac was FOTD, so its obvious he can chill a bit he don't have to fight GGG and Sergio, its obvious Pac is allowed to take his foot off the gas pedal. Floyd had his career breaks and losing out on FOTD, so what is Floyd going to do in response, to put two fingers up at the people who didn't vote him FOTD?
Yes take the fights where Sergio and GGG call him out.

[-PBP-]

Plus Hopkins at 49 isn't the same as Floyd at 49.

Hopkins didn't win a world title until he was 29. He was still considered green at 28.

Floyd at 28 was a 4 weight Champion.

Like I said in the other thread, Hopkins is 49 and has been at the top level for 20 years. Floyd is 37 and has been at the top level 17 years.

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. What he's doing at age 49 is incredible. But no matter your age its about who you beat, not who you fought. Outside of Tarver he hasn't beaten a top tier lhw.

[chav]

Hopkins has this all day long. Im not his biggest fan, but its hard to question his pedigree and greatness. Living legend of the sport.

[Deevel916]

Reaching? It's just flat out wrong and a piss poor analogy. But that's the guy who scored Rigo - Donaire a draw, objectivity obviously isn't his strong suit.

Red K for lying. Never did I score Rigo/Donaire a draw.

[b00g13man]

Pac is smaller than FLoyd, that is obvious, and currently Pac isn't p4p no1, so don't concentrate on what Pac should do, rather concentrate on Floyd in some way justifying his claim to be the best and Floyds claim TBE. SO just because FLoyd is pressure to fight so and so, doesn't mean to say Pac should as well.

You do realise that you holding Floyd to a much higher standard means you consider him that much better right?

Pac was FOTD, so its obvious he can chill a bit he don't have to fight GGG and Sergio, its obvious Pac is allowed to take his foot off the gas pedal. Floyd had his career breaks and losing out on FOTD, so what is Floyd going to do in response, to put two fingers up at the people who didn't vote him FOTD?
Yes take the fights where Sergio and GGG call him out.

Going by this logic, Floyd is already considered the best of this era with his current legacy, so he can afford "to take his foot off the gas pedal".

[hugh grant]

You do realise that you holding Floyd to a much higher standard means you consider him that much better right?".

I don't know what you are talking about here. Floyd wants to be TBE, so when GGG calls him out, he needs to fight him. He already missed the Sergio boat, Miguel dug Floyd out of that one. Don't concentrate on Pac. Pac already beat Bradley the no3 p4p in the world at that point based on his win over Pac. So Pac is hardly taking it easy is he? So Floyd needs to think what can I do to better that.

Going by this logic, Floyd is already considered the best of this era with his current legacy, so he can afford "to take his foot off the gas pedal".

No, you see, Floyd cant take his foot off the pedal. Because Floyd wants to be TBE. But as we all know he isn't. He took his pedal off the gas with his breaks a while back so he needs to grind his foot down now, he is on the home stretch.