Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #61
    Originally posted by PAC-BOY
    I really dont think anyone who follows Boxing can say Floyd over Bhop. You'd have to be a complete moron to do so.
    Is it any wonder a poster like this has a different view then the collective opinion of respected, unbiased, objective media members.

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    • I Love Jesus!
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      #62
      Ones a coward ones not a coward. Close poll by the way

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      • Deevel916
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        #63
        Hopkins was never afraid to put himself to the test even at damn near 50yrs old against a prime brute like Kovalev.

        Floyd wont even fight a 5'4" Philippino.

        Hopkins dared to be great while Floyd chose to play it safe.

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        • twosweethooks
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          #64
          Level of opposition :

          Hopkins : Fought all comers

          May Jr : Ducked all Prime WW Elites

          nuff said Hopkins hands down

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            #65
            Originally posted by Deevel916
            Hopkins was never afraid to put himself to the test even at damn near 50yrs old against a prime brute like Kovalev.

            Floyd wont even fight a 5'4" Philippino.

            Hopkins dared to be great while Floyd chose to play it safe.
            Originally posted by twosweethooks
            Level of opposition :

            Hopkins : Fought all comers

            May Jr : Ducked all Prime WW Elites

            nuff said Hopkins hands down
            In the October issue of Ring magazine, they asked 20 writers and historians to list their top 20 fighters since World War 2.

            1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
            2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
            3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
            4. Roberto Duran - 296
            5. Joe Luis - 293
            6. Ray Leonard - 258
            7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
            8. Archie Moore - 189
            9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
            10. Ezzard Charles - 164
            11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
            12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
            13. Marvin Hagler - 117
            14. Carlos Monzon - 98
            15. Eder Jofre - 86
            16. Sandy Saddler - 82
            17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
            18. Rocky Marciano - 77
            19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
            20. Ike Williams - 55

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            • Deevel916
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              #66
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              In the October issue of Ring magazine, they asked 20 writers and historians to list their top 20 fighters since World War 2.

              1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
              2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
              3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
              4. Roberto Duran - 296
              5. Joe Luis - 293
              6. Ray Leonard - 258
              7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
              8. Archie Moore - 189
              9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
              10. Ezzard Charles - 164
              11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
              12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
              13. Marvin Hagler - 117
              14. Carlos Monzon - 98
              15. Eder Jofre - 86
              16. Sandy Saddler - 82
              17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
              18. Rocky Marciano - 77
              19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
              20. Ike Williams - 55
              Hopkins Wins over Tito, Tarver, Pavlik, Pascal 2x, Winky and Oscar trump anything on Floyd's record.

              People are too fixated with the "0" on Floyd's record. Hopkins has stepped up to the plate time and time again with no excuses or ducking. No shame in losing when you're daring to be great and fight the best!
              Last edited by Deevel916; 11-10-2014, 09:06 AM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Hopkins Wins over Tito, Tarver, Pavlik, Pascal 2x, Winky, Oscar trump anything on Floyd's record.

                People are too fixated with the "0" on Floyd's record. Hopkins has stepped up to the plate time and time again with no excuses or ducking. No shame in losing when you're daring to be great and fight the best!
                Tarver, Oscar, Winky, Pavlik, Pascal trump anything on Floyd's resume?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Hopkins Wins over Tito, Tarver, Pavlik, Pascal 2x, Winky and Oscar trump anything on Floyd's record.

                  People are too fixated with the "0" on Floyd's record. Hopkins has stepped up to the plate time and time again with no excuses or ducking. No shame in losing when you're daring to be great and fight the best!
                  These rankings aren't made by just "people". Whenever some mag/website approaches ranking fighters in an unbiased, objective way, Floyd tends to, but not always, finishes ahead of his contemporaries.

                  On the other hand, NSB posters like yourself voting in this poll try to hard to minimize Floyd being undefeated by purposely under valuing his competition. Your goal here is the same goal you have for everything you do on NSB, knocking Floyd down a peg and criticizing his fans.

                  That is a major reason why this poll differs so much from the Ring's rankings.

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                  • LouIE G
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Check_hooks
                    One win over Pac still wouldn't be enough. Thats like saying Kovalev should be rated higher than BHop cuz he beat him
                    But who hasnt floyd beat, literally not named manny pacquaio?? Did fighters like an unknown pwill, margacheato, and this prime myth can it really take away from floyds legacy..? Hes fought a whos who in boxing. Theres probably a few fighters that bhop didnt face throughout his career as well, tha the fans wanted to see him fight.
                    Last edited by LouIE G; 11-10-2014, 09:16 AM.

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                    • twosweethooks
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      In the October issue of Ring magazine, they asked 20 writers and historians to list their top 20 fighters since World War 2.

                      1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
                      2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
                      3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
                      4. Roberto Duran - 296
                      5. Joe Luis - 293
                      6. Ray Leonard - 258
                      7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
                      8. Archie Moore - 189
                      9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
                      10. Ezzard Charles - 164
                      11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
                      12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
                      13. Marvin Hagler - 117
                      14. Carlos Monzon - 98
                      15. Eder Jofre - 86
                      16. Sandy Saddler - 82
                      17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
                      18. Rocky Marciano - 77
                      19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
                      20. Ike Williams - 55
                      Rocky had 49 wins NO LOSSES with 43 KO's at 188 lbs fighting all comers and was always the smaller fighter. They really missed it badly didn't they, hahahahahahaha

                      Its no different than how the writers predicted the out come of the Hop vs K last Sat nite,,,,,,,,They MISSED it didn't they !

                      Everyone knows your favorite fighter is May Jr. Thats cool.

                      Just please name the Prime WW Elite that Jr has fought in the past ten years that defines him.

                      He is fixing to fight one of two duds, Khan or Alexander when he could fight Pac. The excuses over the past 4 or 5 years has been astounding. All the demands have been incredible. IF jr had wanted to fight the best he would have already fought Pac, he would have worked thru the needle exuses etc... he would have easily worked that out but he didn't.

                      Jr will go down as one who had skills but scared to put them on display against the best. Jr will go down as the Fraud of Boxing because HE played it SAFE !!!!!!

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