Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao-Jessie Vargas Coming in 2015?

[Divine Hammer]

Well lemme see Genius, maybe because Trout (at the time) and Lara were regarded two of the best fighters in the JMW division. So how you gonna knock a guy for winning close fights against two of the best fighters in that division? Don't act like a damn fool. That's a moronic claim you made.

Now back to my question that your avoiding, if Canelo is the hype job you say he is how come no one outside of Mayweather had been to perform effectively against him? Answer that with a straight face. Quit duckin the fixkin question. Don't give into being owned. Humor me.

They were good fighters (not great) but if canelo was this p4p future star then he should have won convincingly especially against trout. Instead trout vs canelo should have been a draw at best, and Lara clearly won.

Also no one can do to canelo what mayweather did is because mayweather was the only elite fighter he fought. Canelo is not elite or even close to it. Believe me when he faces ggg he gets beaten badly like mayweather did to him except ggg has the power to take out that ginger punk.

Truth is canelo looked mediocre in both fights. To say canelo is top ten p4p and future Mexican great is a joke and insult.

[Mike D]

Also Maidana is a better win than Bradley. Maidana is a hard fighter, who will do everything he can to fight his fight and win. Bradley will fight the other guy's fight to please fans who will always hate him.

Lmfao dude you're out of your f**king mind. Maidana's an entertaining fighter with a lot of heart but claiming that he's a better quality win than Tim Bradley should honestly be a ban-worthy offense.

Or maybe you just got a ridiculously potent bag of chronic tonight...which in that case I'd understand.

[Mike D]

Guess you missed the Pac/Rios numbers, huh?

No. I'm well aware of the Pacquiao/Rios PPV numbers.

These numbers will be even worse.

[Mike D]

Guess you missed the Pac/Rios numbers, huh?

By the way, to refresh people's memory, ESPN reported Pacquiao/Rios at between 475,000 and 500,000 PPV buys.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pacquiao/Algieri at 300K-ish. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[SeekDaGreat]

They were good fighters (not great) but if canelo was this p4p future star then he should have won convincingly especially against trout. Instead trout vs canelo should have been a draw at best, and Lara clearly won.

Truth is canelo looked mediocre in both fights. To say canelo is top ten p4p and future Mexican great is a joke and insult.

So you just admitted the fights were close, what does that say about Lara who is/was #1 JMW? Or Trout who was an undefeated champion, coming off his best performance? If Canelo is the hype job your saying he is, why can't an of these guys beat him, or better yet perform well against him?

Basically, what your saying without saying it: is that your wrong.

Or you so ****n blind to it, you just can't see it.

Either way, you're wrong. Now carry on about Paxquiao and ****ty ass fight. He's turning into Mayweather with these horrid opponents. Algieri & Vargas is worse than Ortiz & Guerrero back to back.

[Realboxingfan1]

Arum/PAC the milk man show continues its wrath in 2015

[Divine Hammer]

So you just admitted the fights were close, what does that say about Lara who is/was #1 JMW? Or Trout who was an undefeated champion, coming off his best performance? If Canelo is the hype job your saying he is, why can't an of these guys beat him, or better yet perform well against him?

Basically, what your saying without saying it: is that your wrong.

Or you so ****n blind to it, you just can't see it.

Either way, you're wrong. Now carry on about Paxquiao and ****ty ass fight. He's turning into Mayweather with these horrid opponents. Algieri & Vargas is worse than Ortiz & Guerrero back to back.

Trout vs canelo was a draw but lara clearly won. Neither guys are elite at all and neither is canelo. Canelo when he fights a real top fighter he gets embarrassed (ie Floyd)

The fact he is top ten p4p for all the gifts he has got is a joke.

Top ten p4p should be reserved for actual elite fighters and canelo isn't one of them.

[HeroBando]

Full world titles at 130 [WBC/Ring], 135 [WBC/Ring], 140 [WBC], 147 [WBC/IBF/WBA/Ring], and 154 [WBC/WBA/Ring]

Four-division lineal champion, and championships across five division from the actual world-level boxing organization (WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO), at the full weights no less.

the false equivalencies that propagate this site are hilarious.

What false equivalence? You probably dont know what that means. Being a paper champ in your 8 division is not the same as paper champ in your 5th. 5th is much lower.

And this is what i was talking about, someone trumpeting Floyds paper creds at 154 when his biggest fans admit hes a feeble paper champ there. "Not fair, Floyd is just a welter"

[HeroBando]

You guys only look at one side "Canelo didn't even beat them convincingly..."

Use your brain here for second if you may: WHaT DOeS THaT SAY AbOUT tROUT AND LARA'S PERFORMANCE?

If Canelo barely beat them, and he's this alleged hype-job then wtf is the rest of the division? What is Lara then? What is Trout then? Own-age.

We know theyre no great shakes. Thats why neither was p4p, unlike Bradley

[SeekDaGreat]

Trout vs canelo was a draw but lara clearly won. Neither guys are elite at all and neither is canelo. Canelo when he fights a real top fighter he gets embarrassed (ie Floyd)

The fact he is top ten p4p for all the gifts he has got is a joke.

Top ten p4p should be reserved for actual elite fighters and canelo isn't one of them.

Well. I'm sorry you feel that way. There is small group of you out there. He did get embarrassed by Mayweather and guess what? So have 95% of Mayweathers other opponents, so that just kudos to Mayweather (as much as I hate to admit that.) To lose one fight clearly, to the #1 ranked P4P fighter in the world at 22-years old, is nothing to be ashamed of.

And you call Trout a draw, and Lara a lost. That's your opinion. Just remember, there's other people (a lot of them) who saw the differently.

Personally I felt he beat Trout close but clear, and draw'd or lost by one 1-round to Lara. And hey, for an alleged "hype job" line you like to call him, I would say that's not bad.