Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao-Jessie Vargas Coming in 2015?

[MC Hammer]

Clottey isn't a terrible fighter. Clottey was former ibf champ (was only stripped), ranked in the top 5 best at welterweight and gave cotto hell in their fight (arguably won).

But without a doubt the Bradley win alone is better than any Floyd win from 140-147.

Also algieri is a good boxer. So what if he doesn't have the resume yet? Right now he has had a good career (world champion, undefeated, ranked #3 at Jr ww). He might go on to have a great career.

Yeah and everyone Floyd has fought was a champ, so the Clottey fight pales in comparison.

Algerie was beaten up by Provo, an kd like 3 times, how is he a good boxer? His resume would be all the evidence we have, but no one great is on it. You have to earn big shots and this kid hasn't, and him MAYBE going on to be good, has nothing to do with the here and now.

Also Maidana is a better win than Bradley. Maidana is a hard fighter, who will do everything he can to fight his fight and win. Bradley will fight the other guy's fight to please fans who will always hate him.

[HeroBando]

If Canelo was a WW, he would beat the **** out of Bradley. You say Canelo is a hype-job then why outside of Floydayweather has no one been able to beat him? And if you think Lara won the fight, or Trout, why were they not able to perform well against Canelo?"peeleft:

Hmmm....I would love for you to answer these questions.

Canelo didnt even convincingly beat those 2, in fact most had Lara winning it seems. And Bradley is better than both p4p

[Divine Hammer]

Of couse you do, because he wants to challenge Floyd. It's quite obvious!

If he says he can make it he can make it. He is not a big middleweight either. Most Jr middleweights are heavier than ggg on fight night.

[MC Hammer]

:ANYWORD: couldn't have found any better opponent? Its gonna be a easy win to capture ONE of the titles. Then he will challenge Garcia to unify the division!

Danny has maybe 1 more fight in the division and its probably Peterson. Plus Haymon and Arum will not do business to make this happen

[SeekDaGreat]

Wrong. Bradley would completely outbox canelo. 40 yr old Marquez is 100 times the fighter canelo is in terms of skill.

Canelo would bring nothing that Bradley hadn't seen before.

The real question is if canelo is this p4p superstar and next Chavez sr, future hof'er, with huge unstoppable power, then how come he couldn't blow out trout and Lara?? Truth is canelo is all hype and can't convincingly beat anyone remotely good without getting a gift scorecard. He should stick to beating up on the angulos and josesito Lopez's of the world.

When he steps up and fights ggg he will get ko'ed cold.

Well lemme see Genius, maybe because Trout (at the time) and Lara were regarded two of the best fighters in the JMW division. So how you gonna knock a guy for winning close fights against two of the best fighters in that division? Don't act like a damn fool. That's a moronic claim you made.

Now back to my question that your avoiding, if Canelo is the hype job you say he is how come no one outside of Mayweather had been to perform effectively against him? Answer that with a straight face. Quit duckin the fixkin question. Don't give into being owned. Humor me.

[Scipio2009]

Pac was a sww "champ". Everybody knows his 8 title is bogus. Whats sad is Floyds 5th is not much better. His fans kinda admit it by giving excises like " hes just a welter" but this paper champ keeps paying the 154 sanctioning fees, even for a fight at 147 lol

Full world titles at 130 [WBC/Ring], 135 [WBC/Ring], 140 [WBC], 147 [WBC/IBF/WBA/Ring], and 154 [WBC/WBA/Ring]

Four-division lineal champion, and championships across five division from the actual world-level boxing organization (WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO), at the full weights no less.

the false equivalencies that propagate this site are hilarious.

[SeekDaGreat]

Canelo didnt even convincingly beat those 2, in fact most had Lara winning it seems. And Bradley is better than both p4p

You guys only look at one side "Canelo didn't even beat them convincingly..."

Use your brain here for second if you may: WHaT DOeS THaT SAY AbOUT tROUT AND LARA'S PERFORMANCE?

If Canelo barely beat them, and he's this alleged hype-job then wtf is the rest of the division? What is Lara then? What is Trout then? Own-age.

[Mike D]

Honestly I don't think Arum will be able to make a Pacquiao/Vargas fight...even if he ultimately wants to. The Pac/Algieri PPV numbers will be so embarrassingly low that Bob will have no choice but to match Manny with someone with a name.

[Divine Hammer]

Yeah and everyone Floyd has fought was a champ, so the Clottey fight pales in comparison.

Algerie was beaten up by Provo, an kd like 3 times, how is he a good boxer? His resume would be all the evidence we have, but no one great is on it. You have to earn big shots and this kid hasn't, and him MAYBE going on to be good, has nothing to do with the here and now.

Also Maidana is a better win than Bradley. Maidana is a hard fighter, who will do everything he can to fight his fight and win. Bradley will fight the other guy's fight to please fans who will always hate him.

Clottey was only stripped of his title when he went to face cotto for the wbo belt. And clottey gave cotto hell in their fight. Clottey is highly underrated.

And despite the two knockdowns against Provo (only 1 was legit, algieri went down on a knee for the second) he completely took back control of the fight and outboxed Provo with one eye. He showed a great jab, good movement, and heart.

And maidana is not a better win than Bradley. Maidana was ranked at the very bottom of welterweight (ranked #9 or 8), not top ten p4p, contemplated retirement after being embarrassed by alexander, and his only stand out win was beating hype job broner who looked terrible against malignaggi hahahaha. So maidana IS NOT a better win than Bradley. Not even close.

[megadeth]

Honestly I don't think Arum will be able to make a Pacquiao/Vargas fight...even if he ultimately wants to. The Pac/Algieri PPV numbers will be so embarrassingly low that Bob will have no choice but to match Manny with someone with a name.

Guess you missed the Pac/Rios numbers, huh?