Take the Canelo fight Cotto.
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Unlike bigjavi, I give Sergio credit for those wins, the reality is however that all of Martinez's big wins were against markedly similar opponents. Slow, flat footed, plodding, come forward punchers, all of which were taller then him. You think Martinez was not 100% for the Cotto fight? That's your opinion and that's fine, but even if Martinez was 100% that night he was unprepared for the fight and his being 100% would have only prolonged the inevitable. Like Roy Jones said Martinez's first mistake was thinking Cotto could not hurt him. But Martinez's actual first mistake was during training.
Martinez first and only mistake was taking the fight, or actually taking any fight for that matter, you cant go 12 rounds with busted knees, simple as that. Cotto fans can say Sergio was 100% all they want, realistic neutral boxing fans see otherwise.Comment
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Well no **** and you can't blame Cotto for not taking this fight. Any moron knows Cotto beat a shot Martinez and he's not a real middleweight. He needs to vacate that belt so Golovkin and his people can shut up about fighting a small junior middleweight.Comment
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The whole story going into the fight was Sergios knee. Sergio was favored by Vegas and by every major boxing reporter barring his knees would be healthy. And the fact is before Sergio, Cotto got outboxed by Trout and beat up Delvin Rodriguez in a Salka type fight. Once again, you can say Chavez Jr was big tall and a plodder all you want, thats in some way or another, disscrediting Sergios win. I can easily do the same by disscrediting Cottos past fights, Delvin (Superbum), Trout (outboxed and neutralized Cottos whole arsenal), Floyd (lost a UD like everyone), Margs (beat up a punching bag, bigger version of Rios), Mayorga and Foreman are subpar opponents at best.
Martinez first and only mistake was taking the fight, or actually taking any fight for that matter, you cant go 12 rounds with busted knees, simple as that. Cotto fans can say Sergio was 100% all they want, realistic neutral boxing fans see otherwise.Comment
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The whole story going into the fight was Sergios knee. Sergio was favored by Vegas and by every major boxing reporter barring his knees would be healthy. And the fact is before Sergio, Cotto got outboxed by Trout and beat up Delvin Rodriguez in a Salka type fight. Once again, you can say Chavez Jr was big tall and a plodder all you want, thats in some way or another, disscrediting Sergios win. I can easily do the same by disscrediting Cottos past fights, Delvin (Superbum), Trout (outboxed and neutralized Cottos whole arsenal), Floyd (lost a UD like everyone), Margs (beat up a punching bag, bigger version of Rios), Mayorga and Foreman are subpar opponents at best.
Martinez first and only mistake was taking the fight, or actually taking any fight for that matter, you cant go 12 rounds with busted knees, simple as that. Cotto fans can say Sergio was 100% all they want, realistic neutral boxing fans see otherwise.
Now as far as the knees, Ill be the first to admit that Martinez looked older but It is your opinion that his knees were messed up. IT IS AN OPINION, because the facts dont support your theory,
As Miguel Cotto took his place at the post-fight press conference, he was met by a complement he probably hadn’t heard since childhood. “What a pretty face,” Todd duBoef, presiden…
MRI taken immediately following the fight proved there was nothing wrong with the knee or the hand. Not even swelling. But what was proven is that Martinez had a concussion and a broken nose. So "Cotto" fans as you put it may not be correct that Martinez was 100% but it wasnt because of his knee.
Now if your a real "neutral" boxing fan like you claim to be, watch the fight starting from the third round on mute and you will see a entirely different fight.Comment
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You may claim to be a neutral fan but you sure aint a smart one. in my post i pointed out the difference between Cotto and Martinez's biggest victories. The fact that Martinez had fought the sam opponents over and over left him ill prepared for what Cotto brought to the table. Also Martinez does not have the best corner and his ring IQ is not very high.
Now as far as the knees, Ill be the first to admit that Martinez looked older but It is your opinion that his knees were messed up. IT IS AN OPINION, because the facts dont support your theory,
As Miguel Cotto took his place at the post-fight press conference, he was met by a complement he probably hadn’t heard since childhood. “What a pretty face,” Todd duBoef, presiden…
MRI taken immediately following the fight proved there was nothing wrong with the knee or the hand. Not even swelling. But what was proven is that Martinez had a concussion and a broken nose. So "Cotto" fans as you put it may not be correct that Martinez was 100% but it wasnt because of his knee.
Now if your a real "neutral" boxing fan like you claim to be, watch the fight starting from the third round on mute and you will see a entirely different fight.
Dude your a closet Cotto fan, its ok, dont hide it. Obviously we're gonna disagree about why the fight played out the way it did. You believe it was Sergios past opponents that had him "unprepared" for Cottos style which is fair but kinda irrelevant. Is it reasonable to say Trout never faced a guy like Cotto? He was a southpaw just like Sergio and gave Cotto a boxing clinic. Your homerism is beyond reasoning. Get back to me when Canelo or GGG put a beating on your boy. Then again Cotto might cherry pick his way to good ole K9.Last edited by jcj0427; 10-28-2014, 10:37 PM.Comment
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