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  • Nomadic
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    #121
    Take the Canelo fight Cotto.

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    • Bigg Rigg
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      #122
      Abel better be easy before Cotto beats Canelo in a war and then retires! Lol GGG can go **** himself. Or get ****ed by Ward for 12 rds in a boring dud of a fight.
      Last edited by Bigg Rigg; 10-28-2014, 06:05 PM.

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      • Basco
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        #123
        I like GGG but he is fishing for that fight so hard!

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        • jcj0427
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          #124
          Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
          Unlike bigjavi, I give Sergio credit for those wins, the reality is however that all of Martinez's big wins were against markedly similar opponents. Slow, flat footed, plodding, come forward punchers, all of which were taller then him. You think Martinez was not 100% for the Cotto fight? That's your opinion and that's fine, but even if Martinez was 100% that night he was unprepared for the fight and his being 100% would have only prolonged the inevitable. Like Roy Jones said Martinez's first mistake was thinking Cotto could not hurt him. But Martinez's actual first mistake was during training.
          The whole story going into the fight was Sergios knee. Sergio was favored by Vegas and by every major boxing reporter barring his knees would be healthy. And the fact is before Sergio, Cotto got outboxed by Trout and beat up Delvin Rodriguez in a Salka type fight. Once again, you can say Chavez Jr was big tall and a plodder all you want, thats in some way or another, disscrediting Sergios win. I can easily do the same by disscrediting Cottos past fights, Delvin (Superbum), Trout (outboxed and neutralized Cottos whole arsenal), Floyd (lost a UD like everyone), Margs (beat up a punching bag, bigger version of Rios), Mayorga and Foreman are subpar opponents at best.

          Martinez first and only mistake was taking the fight, or actually taking any fight for that matter, you cant go 12 rounds with busted knees, simple as that. Cotto fans can say Sergio was 100% all they want, realistic neutral boxing fans see otherwise.

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            #125
            Well no **** and you can't blame Cotto for not taking this fight. Any moron knows Cotto beat a shot Martinez and he's not a real middleweight. He needs to vacate that belt so Golovkin and his people can shut up about fighting a small junior middleweight.

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              #126
              Originally posted by jcj0427
              The whole story going into the fight was Sergios knee. Sergio was favored by Vegas and by every major boxing reporter barring his knees would be healthy. And the fact is before Sergio, Cotto got outboxed by Trout and beat up Delvin Rodriguez in a Salka type fight. Once again, you can say Chavez Jr was big tall and a plodder all you want, thats in some way or another, disscrediting Sergios win. I can easily do the same by disscrediting Cottos past fights, Delvin (Superbum), Trout (outboxed and neutralized Cottos whole arsenal), Floyd (lost a UD like everyone), Margs (beat up a punching bag, bigger version of Rios), Mayorga and Foreman are subpar opponents at best.

              Martinez first and only mistake was taking the fight, or actually taking any fight for that matter, you cant go 12 rounds with busted knees, simple as that. Cotto fans can say Sergio was 100% all they want, realistic neutral boxing fans see otherwise.
              You are a genius.

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              • KnickTillDeaTh
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                #127
                Originally posted by jcj0427
                The whole story going into the fight was Sergios knee. Sergio was favored by Vegas and by every major boxing reporter barring his knees would be healthy. And the fact is before Sergio, Cotto got outboxed by Trout and beat up Delvin Rodriguez in a Salka type fight. Once again, you can say Chavez Jr was big tall and a plodder all you want, thats in some way or another, disscrediting Sergios win. I can easily do the same by disscrediting Cottos past fights, Delvin (Superbum), Trout (outboxed and neutralized Cottos whole arsenal), Floyd (lost a UD like everyone), Margs (beat up a punching bag, bigger version of Rios), Mayorga and Foreman are subpar opponents at best.

                Martinez first and only mistake was taking the fight, or actually taking any fight for that matter, you cant go 12 rounds with busted knees, simple as that. Cotto fans can say Sergio was 100% all they want, realistic neutral boxing fans see otherwise.
                You may claim to be a neutral fan but you sure aint a smart one. in my post i pointed out the difference between Cotto and Martinez's biggest victories. The fact that Martinez had fought the sam opponents over and over left him ill prepared for what Cotto brought to the table. Also Martinez does not have the best corner and his ring IQ is not very high.

                Now as far as the knees, Ill be the first to admit that Martinez looked older but It is your opinion that his knees were messed up. IT IS AN OPINION, because the facts dont support your theory,

                As Miguel Cotto took his place at the post-fight press conference, he was met by a complement he probably hadn’t heard since childhood. “What a pretty face,” Todd duBoef, presiden…


                MRI taken immediately following the fight proved there was nothing wrong with the knee or the hand. Not even swelling. But what was proven is that Martinez had a concussion and a broken nose. So "Cotto" fans as you put it may not be correct that Martinez was 100% but it wasnt because of his knee.

                Now if your a real "neutral" boxing fan like you claim to be, watch the fight starting from the third round on mute and you will see a entirely different fight.

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                • KnickTillDeaTh
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Nomadic
                  Take the Canelo fight Cotto.
                  Roach and Cotto requested the fight for December and it was Canelo and his people who turned it down. So to be more accurate, "take the Cotto fight Canelo".

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                    #129
                    Golovkin doesn't make financial sense for Cotto.

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                    • jcj0427
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                      You may claim to be a neutral fan but you sure aint a smart one. in my post i pointed out the difference between Cotto and Martinez's biggest victories. The fact that Martinez had fought the sam opponents over and over left him ill prepared for what Cotto brought to the table. Also Martinez does not have the best corner and his ring IQ is not very high.

                      Now as far as the knees, Ill be the first to admit that Martinez looked older but It is your opinion that his knees were messed up. IT IS AN OPINION, because the facts dont support your theory,

                      As Miguel Cotto took his place at the post-fight press conference, he was met by a complement he probably hadn’t heard since childhood. “What a pretty face,” Todd duBoef, presiden…


                      MRI taken immediately following the fight proved there was nothing wrong with the knee or the hand. Not even swelling. But what was proven is that Martinez had a concussion and a broken nose. So "Cotto" fans as you put it may not be correct that Martinez was 100% but it wasnt because of his knee.

                      Now if your a real "neutral" boxing fan like you claim to be, watch the fight starting from the third round on mute and you will see a entirely different fight.
                      Bro, Ive watched the fights a bunch of times, and what I saw was a guy who couldn't put any pressure on his legs. A guy who would literally slip as he was pivoting many times, a guy whose right jab constantly fell short, a guy whose burst showed no explosion as in his previous fights. Let me ask you this, who else would of made quick work of Sergio that night?? Quillin, Lemieux, Chavez Jr? Any decent middleweight woulda destroyed Maravilla that night. Cotto won by default. Maybe you should focus on Sergio more when you re-watch the fight then on an MRI sheet you found on the internet smart guy. All that proves is that the wasn't the ligament wasn't "broken".

                      Dude your a closet Cotto fan, its ok, dont hide it. Obviously we're gonna disagree about why the fight played out the way it did. You believe it was Sergios past opponents that had him "unprepared" for Cottos style which is fair but kinda irrelevant. Is it reasonable to say Trout never faced a guy like Cotto? He was a southpaw just like Sergio and gave Cotto a boxing clinic. Your homerism is beyond reasoning. Get back to me when Canelo or GGG put a beating on your boy. Then again Cotto might cherry pick his way to good ole K9.
                      Last edited by jcj0427; 10-28-2014, 10:37 PM.

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