Could a prime Sergio Martinez have beat GGG?

[T18Z]

Interpret the data? Lol...I didn't even examine it. It can't be taken seriously when you have someone like Chavez Jr in the top 10. The reason he's there is because he's been fighting weak opponents like Golovkin.

Mayweather or Ward's stats actually mean something because they've been fighting world class opponents.

You clearly are the one who can't interpret the data properly.

No, you're clearly too biased to allow anything to change your judgement on a dumb comment you've made multiple times now. If you didn't even examine it don't bother acting like you know what you're talking about, claiming Klitscko has a lower defence than Chavez without even reading is ******.

You claimed GGG has weak defence. Since he has never fought the absolute elite of boxing, it's obvious you are speaking about his defence against his current opposition. In which case, you're a ****** and upset because the statistics don't agree with you, nor does GGG's performances, and now you just look pathetically bias.

[dirty fingers]

No. Golovkin is a good boxer with a murderous punch, and Sergio didn't exactly have a good defense. GGG would have knocked Sergio out at some point in the fight. I'll go with the guy who has a bigger punch, equal boxing skill, and better chin. Bad style matchup for Sergio any way you slice it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No, you're clearly too biased to allow anything to change your judgement on a dumb comment you've made multiple times now. If you didn't even examine it don't bother acting like you know what you're talking about, claiming Klitscko has a lower defence than Chavez without even reading is ******.

You claimed GGG has weak defence. Since he has never fought the absolute elite of boxing, it's obvious you are speaking about his defence currently. In which case, you're a ****** and upset because the statistics don't agree with you, nor does GGG's performances, and now you just look pathetically bias.

My judgement is fine. If you're getting backed up and hit clean by guys like Curtis Stevens, your defence is not the best. Kassim Ouma landed on him repeatedly. Geale caught him flush just before the KO. These are average fighters who shouldn't be landing on you like that. A sharp, fast accurate counter-puncher like Martinez would be hell for Golovkin.

[champion4ever]

Yes his lower body movement and hand speed would be the deciding factors in that bout and that's not even mentioning his counter punching ability. In addition, I could see him possibly hurting or dropping GGG at some point by a punch he doesn't see.

[IronDanHamza]

My judgement is fine. If you're getting backed up and hit clean by guys like Curtis Stevens, your defence is not the best. Kassim Ouma landed on him repeatedly. Geale caught him flush just before the KO. These are average fighters who shouldn't be landing on you like that. A sharp, fast accurate counter-puncher like Martinez would be hell for Golovkin.

Yeah when Geale landed on Golovkin as he landed the KO punch I thought that was very amateurish.

A testament to how hard he punches though.

I agree with you from what I've seen I don't rate his defense.

[T18Z]

My judgement is fine. If you're getting backed up and hit clean by guys like Curtis Stevens, your defence is not the best. Kassim Ouma landed on him repeatedly. Geale caught him flush just before the KO. These are average fighters who shouldn't be landing on you like that. A sharp, fast accurate counter-puncher like Martinez would be hell for Golovkin.

Who would've known boxers get hit in boxing matches?

Your example only serves to signify how bias you really are. You use an example of a fight where Golovkin was backed up for practically a total of a few seconds, and these 'flush shots' came once in a blue moon and were single shots. He was in very bad shape for the Ouma fight due to sleep deprivation among other things, that's already known.

Also, wow. Daniel Geale hit him flush with 1 punch after 3 rounds? What a great indicator of someones defense. I guess whoever isn't elite and has hit Mayweather once clean makes Mayweathers defence 'leaky'?

Just stop, honestly. Such bad, bad logic. His defensive stats have already been linked, he's 3rd overall, deal with it.jpg

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Who would've known boxers get hit in boxing matches?

Your example only serves to signify how bias you really are. You use an example of a fight where Golovkin was backed up for practically a total of a few seconds, and these 'flush shots' came once in a blue moon and were single shots. He was in very bad shape for the Ouma fight due to sleep deprivation among other things, that's already known.

Also, wow. Daniel Geale hit him flush with 1 punch after 3 rounds? What a great indicator of someones defense. I guess whoever isn't elite and has hit Mayweather once clean makes Mayweathers defence 'leaky'?

Just stop, honestly. Such bad, bad logic. His defensive stats have already been linked, he's 3rd overall, deal with it.jpg

Mayweather's defence has been proven over several years against world class fighters.

Golovkin has been hit and backed up by club fighters.

It's just two different universes you're trying to compare.

[T18Z]

Mayweather's defence has been proven over several years against world class fighters.

Golovkin has been hit and backed up by club fighters.

It's just two different universes you're trying to compare.

God, how can you be so silly? You said his defence is leaky, obviously meaning his defence against previous opponents, as that is the only possible meaning. I linked the stats and some info regarding these which support that his defence is actually good, especially for his style.

Again, your logic is ******. I bet you can find a fight where Mayweather has been hit and backed up temporarily by a club fighter. I'm sure it's a common occurrence in boxing to get HIT by your opponent .

If you want to go ahead and discuss how his defence might hold up to elite opponents in the future go ahead, I don't care. But your initial comment was nothing related to that, and you know it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

God, how can you be so silly? You said his defence is leaky, obviously meaning his defence against previous opponents, as that is the only possible meaning. I linked the stats and some info regarding these which support that his defence is actually good, especially for his style.

Again, your logic is ******. I bet you can find a fight where Mayweather has been hit and backed up temporarily by a club fighter. I'm sure it's a common occurrence in boxing to get HIT by your opponent .

If you want to go ahead and discuss how his defence might hold up to elite opponents in the future go ahead, I don't care. But your initial comment was nothing related to that, and you know it.

I don't rate his defence, he's clearly there to be hit and has been hit quite easily by not very good fighters. I see this with my eyes and don't need meaningless stats to help me.

[ИATAS]

Why are people talking about ggg's defense? He's an offensive fighter. Every offensive fighter is going to take a few shots. Speaking of Defense, Martinez wasn't exactly hard to hit, dude was getting dropped by everyone he fought. Biggest puncher he faced was a two day removed from rehab drunken Pavlik. GGG destroys Sergio' chin.