Has Ward fought anyone as skilled/good as Kovalev/Golovkin?

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  • Lords
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    #51
    Originally posted by King_
    Can you tell me what makes them special? Read my post on the bottom of page 2.


    Any specifics as to what makes Froch/Kessler better/good, besides them fighting each other/other top 168lbers? I mean like a legit breakdown of skill.
    What makes GGG special? KO's? Wilder must be just as special too, if not greater.

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    • ИATAS
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      #52
      He hasn't fought anyone like GGG and GGG hasn't fought anyone like Ward. Only way to find out who wins is to fight. Said the same thing about PBF and Pac years ago.

      Main thing is Ward needs to get in the ring and fight someone, anyone. Worst thing he could do is go straight into a GGG fight after a 16 month layoff or whatever it would be. GGG might knock the ring rust off along with his head.

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      • The Problem Child
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        #53
        HAHAH the hate is real. I love threads like this because you can just see the butthurt and rage in full effect. These threads bring out the haters and take off their masks real quick lol.

        Golovkin, THE MOST FEARED MAN in the sport of boxing. DUCKED by all of those fighters you claim he'd be beaten by.

        I love it.... Hey GGG is making noise and has shaken boxing up for real. The face of boxing right now, deal with it.

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        • Grimgash
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          #54
          160 is a pathetically weak division if thats what you're trying to say it's not. It's awful that's been said before people were hyping GGG to the moon. 175 isn't great either but it's not bad. 168 Is a lot better than both and if GGG or Kov are products of a weak division or talented remains to be seen. The thing is they fight (especially GGG) in pathetic divisions. This isn't new information so don't try to twist it like it's a GGG thing.

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          • King_
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            #55
            Originally posted by Lords
            This right here. How you going to ask if Ward has fought anybody who is skilled/good as Kovalev/GGG when Kovalev/GGG havn't even faced any A class fighters yet to show how good they actually are? Ward's resume > Kovalev/GGG's resume together.

            Are you going to tell me what makes the fighters Ward beat at 168 (besides Dawson) A-Class.


            Originally posted by Lords
            Why even try and put sense into someone who doesn't even know anything about boxing and is purely bias?
            LOL. I don't know anything about boxing and am biased yet you can't give me a response as to why the fighters Ward beat are special or "A-Class"




            Okay boxing expert. Come back when you can actually answer my questions



            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            What makes GGG and Kovalev special?? because they ko c class fighters? Ya'll get mad when people say GGG should move up 8 pounds to fight Ward for crying out loud...Froch win over Bute is better then anything either has done...Wards win over Abraham is better then either has done and Abrahams win over Jermain Taylor is better then either has done...Just let them actually prove themselves before trying to discredit proven champions..GGG best win is Rubio or Geale?? who are their best wins?? Kovalevs best win is Nathan ****ing CLeavery whos best win is what?? Maurot?

            Do you really want me to freaking answer that? You want me to tell you what makes Kovalev and Golovkin special?!!? You want me to explain their brilliant footwork, A+ ring-stalking ability, crippling power in both hands, etc..... yet you STILL can't tell me what made Froch/Kessler/Abraham/Bika special?

            Dude. Come on.........


            As to the rest of your post.... ONCE AGAIN. I ask you, what made Froch/kessler/Abraham/Bika so special??!!


            Lmao. You can't give an legit response because the answer is NOTHING.. They're all products of a weak era/division and are severely overrated.

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            • King_
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              #56
              Originally posted by Lords
              What makes GGG special? KO's? Wilder must be just as special too, if not greater.
              Are you kidding me? So you're just going to duck my question like Fefist/Larry and respond with this?


              hahahaha... nobody can tell me what makes Froch/Kessler/Abraham/Bika great fighters/special.... because nothing made them special! They're overrated.



              Now who's "biased and "doesn't know boxing" ??

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                #57
                Nope. Kessler is easily Ward's best opponent. Can't forget that a past prime Kessler still had enough to beat Froch. Kessler is a good fighter, no doubt, but he's more stiff and robotic than Kovalev or GGG and doesn't have the punch either.

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                • King_
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by drenlou
                  You can look tremondously skilled against average fighters, it until you fight a great fighter where we see how good you really are....GGG looks to be more skilled then froch, but if they were too fight i think froch would beat him......skills dont always pay bills in the sport of boxing.
                  Both Golovkin and Kovalev have deep amateur backgrounds and you don't have to take out the P4P top 10 to be able to have a clear skillset.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by King_
                    Are you kidding me? So you're just going to duck my question like Fefist/Larry and respond with this?


                    hahahaha... nobody can tell me what makes Froch/Kessler/Abraham/Bika great fighters/special.... because nothing made them special! They're overrated.



                    Now who's "biased and "doesn't know boxing" ??
                    I think you've got a valid point.

                    I'd pick Kovalev and GGG (imagine others would too) moving to 168 and clearing out 80% of the division within a few months if the promoters allowed it. So either that makes people perceive Kovalev and GGG to be something special/better than them, or the 168 division is just vastly overrated with guys who feed off each other.

                    I'd love to see someone argue that either of them wouldn't trash most good fighters at 168 besides Ward and potentially Froch.

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                    • King_
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LarryXXX
                      Anyway i am done with this thread..ya'll enjoy
                      Goodbye. You provided no insight to this thread and completely ducked my answers and made yourself look like a clueless/biased fool


                      Peace!



                      (Kev I'm reading your post right now)

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