Has Ward fought anyone as skilled/good as Kovalev/Golovkin?

[King_]

lol, this guy is a troll, Ward won a gold medal, hasnt lost a fight since he was 12, beat the best at his class all the way through the tournament, and GGG beat WHO? They admitted they were going for weak opponents to get him some notoriety, and only the people that dont know this thinks he's fought murderous row, they ducked Ward admittedly and the cuban called him out the guy that just fought alvarez, and they ducked him, he said he'd come up or they can fight at 160. they didnt want none, this guy is nothing, and means nothing. He's only noticed cause of his ko's but wilder has done the same except he's ko'd everyone. his color is the only reason he's recognized cause the bronze bomber has done KO'd more at a higher weight class. A boxer with skills will beat this hype job. Just like the "machine" when he got in there with someone who could take his power he got beat, cause he's used to taxi drivers who worked overtime that weak. And you guys are the reason he will never get any credit. tell that ducker tho fight a living body, rubio has grey hair and thats what got him into p4p. so please enough of this garbage. The guy who started this needs to stfu, and making excuses. hes obviously a ggg nutlicker.

Obviously reading is too much to ask from you. You just read the thread title and reponded. LOL.


Okay bro, no one cares what you have to say. I'm not even gonna read that garbage. I'm the troll.

[LouIE G]

Okay. Can you respond to this post?



Come on Larry.... or anybody else. Are you guys going to tell me what makes Froch, Kessler, Abraham or Bika special???? (besides them all fighting each other)


Can anybody disprove what I'm saying of them: (aside from Kessler) They're all tough guys with good chins, none of them are good boxers, all of them mindlessly plod forward and they're all slow. None of them has better then above-average power and none of them have the complete skillset that Kovalev and Golovkin possess.


Anybody?

Well your obviously talking aboit skill set and in that case GGG Is great, and alot better then kova imo.... but somehow this whole thread got turned into a discussion about resumes and lack there of.... if this is about resumes, froch is better then Ggg, if this is skills then GGG IS Better then froch..... but at the end of the day you could be the most skilled fighter in the world, but if you cant prove it against top competition no one can really estimate how good you are....all you become is a fighter with alot of talent and alot of potential..regardless if you possess sum belts

[boliodogs]

Ward has some very impressive wins to his credit without a doubt. Froch is one hell of a fighter and so is Kessler and he beat both of them by a wide margin. Still I would pick both Kovalev and GGG to beat Ward by KO. Call my crazy but that would be my pick. The fight with GGG could be at 168 but Ward must fight Kovalev at 175 for me to pick Kovalev to win. I don't know how Kovalev would perform at 168.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Froch, Kessler, Dawson, bika >>>>>>>>> macklin, cleverly,sillkah, geale

[Sugar Adam Ali]

For the record, I think ggg beats everyone from 154-175

Kovolev
Hopkins
Froch
Bika
Cotto
Murray
Canelo
Floyd
Lara

Everyone would get good boy'd

Except for ward... Ward would **** ggg up

[pacmanis1]

I think this thread brings up a great question, "where would Ward be without the Super Six?" Because personally I think without it Ward would have a similar career to GGG, passes the eye test, but not worth the risk/money for top guys to fight him and prove it.

If we had a Super Six MW tournament right now it would be:
Cotto
GGG
Martinez
Quillen
N'Dam
Geale

Personally I believe GGG could run through that with the same impressiveness as Ward and his Super Six. If GGG did this would he also belong in the top 5 p4p?

[artfuL_]

Excellent thread King, you pose a very good question. GGG and Kova are at the top of their game, not only are they in their prime but they are skilled knockout punching machines.

Ward has done what he was supposed to do and thats nullify his opponents and take away their strengths be it by bear hugging and or billy goat head rushing. He is supremely skilled but relies on tactics a lesser boxer will resort to.

Just think what happens when he gets clipped by one of these destroyers.

[Jim Jeffries]

Froch, Kessler, Dawson, bika >>>>>>>>> macklin, cleverly,sillkah, geale

I don't think anyone is arguing that Ward's resume isn't light years ahead of Golovkin's, just that someone like Froch or Bika isn't as skillful as GGG himself. Personally I think GGG needs better opposition to prove his skills in the pros. Short of jumping up in weight and at the same time a phenomenal jump in opposition, that is proving difficult ATM.

[Pigeons]

This question seems to be born from pure sensitivity. You must realize Golovkin and Kovalev's resumes are trash. I agree with you, they are trash.

Has Mayweather fought anyone as good as Pacquiao? Has Pacquiao fought anyone as good as Mayweather?

You can only judge a fighter based on who they have beaten. Andre Ward has beaten Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham, and Chad Dawson. Gennady Golovkin has beaten Daniel Geale. Sergey Kovalev has beaten Gabriel Campillo. Go back to arguing about excitement because Ward's body of work puts both of your boys in a bodybag.

One last thing, if Kovalev gets exposed by an American like your last hypejob Provodnikov was, don't be surprised if your feared killer fades permanently into obscurity.

[lefthook2daliva]

tl dr cept' to learn that op is very angry

headline question is fair enough i suppose.

is anybody on SOG's resume as skilled/good as Kovalev/Golovkin?

how you answer that is your answer

or?