FULL Eddie Hearn Interview on Gennady Golovkin vs Carl Froch

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #131
    Originally posted by Humean
    Eddie Hearn has said Froch would get around the same money fighting Golovkin as he'd get fighting DeGale and Kessler but that Golovkin is a far harder fight for that money and that is the reason Golovkin is behind DeGale and Kessler on the list of priorities.

    Froch and Hearn think (rightfully) that Golovkin would be the hardest opponent and therefore won't fight him unless they get a lot more money than the fight is worth. That is called pricing yourself out of the fight. In case you didn't know, that is a tried and tested euphemism for ducking an opponent.
    So you think Froch-Golovkin should be worth the same as Froch-DeGale or Kessler?

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    • Humean
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      #132
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      So you think Froch-Golovkin should be worth the same as Froch-DeGale or Kessler?
      No idea of the likely figures, all I know is that Eddie Hearn explains the situation as if it is.

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        #133
        Originally posted by Humean
        No idea of the likely figures, all I know is that Eddie Hearn explains the situation as if it is.
        No I'm asking you from a logical standpoint. Which fight should be worth more?

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          #134
          if you think about it golovkin is actually an attractive fight to anyone financially because he doesn't make big financial demands. he comes cheap actually...cheaper than guys who get lower tv ratings than him.

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            #135
            Originally posted by brick wall
            if you think about it golovkin is actually an attractive fight to anyone financially because he doesn't make big financial demands. he comes cheap actually...cheaper than guys who get lower tv ratings than him.
            For a big fight i think hell ask for big money

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              #136
              Originally posted by brick wall
              if you think about it golovkin is actually an attractive fight to anyone financially because he doesn't make big financial demands. he comes cheap actually...cheaper than guys who get lower tv ratings than him.
              Originally posted by Fetta
              For a big fight i think hell ask for big money
              "Andre Ward doesn't make financial sense" - Team Golovkin

              The hypocrisy of some people in this thread is incredible. The reason why Golovkin isn't Froch's first choice is the exact same reason why Golovkin isn't fighting Ward.

              A slight difference is that Froch has £4m on the table to fight the likes of DeGale on PPV whilst Golovkin is fighting cab drivers for 900k on free HBO.

              Come on now.

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                #137
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                No I'm asking you from a logical standpoint. Which fight should be worth more?
                Hearn says Golovkin, DeGale, and Kessler are comparable, I assume he is correct when he says that. Chavez is more lucrative. Logic does not determine what is worth more, the market does. From a sporting point of view Golovkin is the toughest challenge. Hearn said before that Froch wants and needs a challenge to fight again and that apparently Chavez is the challenge he most wants. Now tell me is Chavez more of a challenge than Golovkin? Clearly both Hearn and Froch are being disingenuous.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Humean
                  Hearn says Golovkin, DeGale, and Kessler are comparable, I assume he is correct when he says that. Chavez is more lucrative. Logic does not determine what is worth more, the market does. From a sporting point of view Golovkin is the toughest challenge. Hearn said before that Froch wants and needs a challenge to fight again and that apparently Chavez is the challenge he most wants. Now tell me is Chavez more of a challenge than Golovkin? Clearly both Hearn and Froch are being disingenuous.
                  I'm asking you as a logical person. If you're being offered a fight for X amount against a DeGale or Kessler, would you take the same amount or most likely less to fight Golovkin? I go back to my McDonalds analogy. Would you do a harder job for less money?

                  The Golovkin fight should be a mega fight. It should be a HBO PPV fight but it's not at this moment in time because Golovkin is not a PPV fighter. Why make a fight when neither guy is going to get what the fight SHOULD BE worth?

                  The motivation for Froch is fighting in Vegas. I think the opponent is incidental. Chavez Jr is an HBO PPV fight though where he'll likely earn twice what he would for a Golovkin fight. Again, logically it isn't hard to understand.

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                  • Humean
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    I'm asking you as a logical person. If you're being offered a fight for X amount against a DeGale or Kessler, would you take the same amount or most likely less to fight Golovkin? I go back to my McDonalds analogy. Would you do a harder job for less money?

                    The Golovkin fight should be a mega fight. It should be a HBO PPV fight but it's not at this moment in time because Golovkin is not a PPV fighter. Why make a fight when neither guy is going to get what the fight SHOULD BE worth?

                    The motivation for Froch is fighting in Vegas. I think the opponent is incidental. Chavez Jr is an HBO PPV fight though where he'll likely earn twice what he would for a Golovkin fight. Again, logically it isn't hard to understand.
                    Boxing is also a sport, in that sense it is different from working at McDonalds and Burger King. The person who flips burgers at McDonalds is unlikely to give a **** arse whether someone at Burger King flips burgers with more skill than them.

                    I'd take the same amount and maybe less if I wanted to prove I was the best, Froch is not in a situation where he has yet to make a lot of money, he has already made a fortune. The difference in finances between the fighters on offer to him are fairly small considering the amount of money he has already made.

                    Froch-Golovkin is a sky box office fight. That means it is less lucrative than an HBO box office fight but it is still good money.

                    I agree Froch wants to fight in Las Vegas, in a fight that the US boxing media will take great heed over. He could probably fight Golovkin in Las Vegas, just not on ppv. Froch wants Las Vegas plus PPV. That is fair enough, but he and his supporters cannot also claim they want to face the best opponents and that Froch will face anyone. At least at this stage Froch is more concerned with the limelight and the money than he is fighting the best opponents.
                    Last edited by Humean; 10-22-2014, 06:27 PM.

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                      #140
                      Hearn is making a ****** argument. Just admit Golovkin is too dangerous and The Joke Froch is ducking him. Obviously, anyone will fight anyone if enough money is offered, this means nothing.

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