Most Overrated Boxers Of All Time?

[puga]

Whitaker struggled with Hurtado and Riveria though.

Both who are a lot worse than Maidana.

A younger Whitaker aswell.

First , chino maidana would make both of these fighters look like ali, both had dec3nt boxing skills , not face first brawlers...second they had a considerable reach and height advatge by around 5 " in height and good on the outside...third , they were the last ones sweetpea fought, inside his last 5 so thats not early at all...last, the hurtado fight ,imo was not even a couldve gone either way fight ev3n before the stoppage...

[IronDanHamza]

First , chino maidana would make both of these fighters look like ali, both had dec3nt boxing skills , not face first brawlers...second they had a considerable reach and height advatge by around 5 " in height and good on the outside...third , they were the last ones sweetpea fought, inside his last 5 so thats not early at all...last, the hurtado fight ,imo was not even a couldve gone either way fight ev3n before the stoppage...

I don't disagree with anything you've said here other than Whitaker-Hurtado 2 not being even (I thought Whitaker was losing quite clearly) He was losing on all 3 cards.

Also, the Riveria fights weren't in his last 5 fights, neither of them and e arguably lost both of those fights.

I also didn't say it was early in his career, I said he was younger than Floyd is now.

Either way that's all besides the point. You said Floys stuggled with non P4P guys right? Well my point is Whitaker struggled with some non p4p fighters aswell. Both Riveria fights and Hurtado fight, at the very least he struggled in all 3 of those.

So what I'm saying is the same logic being used with Floyd can be used with Whitaker.

[puga]

I don't disagree with anything you've said here other than Whitaker-Hurtado 2 not being even (I thought Whitaker was losing quite clearly) He was losing on all 3 cards.

Also, the Riveria fights weren't in his last 5 fights, neither of them and e arguably lost both of those fights.

I also didn't say it was early in his career, I said he was younger than Floyd is now.

Either way that's all besides the point. You said Floys stuggled with non P4P guys right? Well my point is Whitaker struggled with some non p4p fighters aswell. Both Riveria fights and Hurtado fight, at the very least he struggled in all 3 of those.

So what I'm saying is the same logic being used with Floyd can be used with Whitaker.

i get what you re sayin but my og point was since maidana uswed the same approach that chavez sr was excellent at "swarming" and arguably beat floyd, with sweetpea beating chavez at that in some rounds particualry the 8th round, it is quite claer that there is a good versatitlity difference between floyd and pea, pernell had more to his game obviously as evident with the examples...

[IronDanHamza]

i get what you re sayin but my og point was since maidana uswed the same approach that chavez sr was excellent at "swarming" and arguably beat floyd, with sweetpea beating chavez at that in some rounds particualry the 8th round, it is quite claer that there is a good versatitlity difference between floyd and pea, pernell had more to his game obviously as evident with the examples...

I don't know, I wouldn't consider Maidana and Chavez similar.

But I get what you're trying to say. Don't really agree entirely but understand the viewpoint.

[Cobra_]

Lucian Bute is up there. Many thought he'd KO Froch and then fight Ward. Many thought Ward was "ducking" Bute.

[puga]

I don't know, I wouldn't consider Maidana and Chavez similar.

But I get what you're trying to say. Don't really agree entirely but understand the viewpoint.

Well, with the approach that worked for maidana and chavez sr style , dont know why they are not....

This is not say they have the same skill level tho, that was the biggest part of my point...

[daggum]

Lucian Bute is up there. Many thought he'd KO Froch and then fight Ward. Many though Ward was "ducking" Bute.

he turned down a career high payday and said he "had to prove himself" then he fought edwin rodriguez the next year. was he proven lol.

[IronDanHamza]

Well, with the approach that worked for maidana and chavez sr style , dont know why they are not....

This is not say they have the same skill level tho, that was the biggest part of my point...

Both are aggressive fighters but I think style wise there's very little alike between the two.

[puga]

Both are aggressive fighters but I think style wise there's very little alike between the two.

Well, most consider marcos a brawler and he used swarming againts floyd...chavez sr was a swarmer....

Like i said, the skill level is something that understandably cannot he compared...

[IronDanHamza]

Well, most consider marcos a brawler and he used swarming againts floyd...chavez sr was a swarmer....

Like i said, the skill level is something that understandably cannot he compared...

Maidana is a brawler, I wouldn't consider Chavez a brawler as such.

Chavez is more like Castillo, understandable considering they were training partners. I think that would be a better example.

The again, Castillo had quite a big size advantage on Floyd whereas Whitaker was bigger than Chavez.

So that comes into it aswell.