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  • Basco
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    #91
    Originally posted by MurkaMan
    You buggin! Pacman doesnt make or break Floyd's career. This dude is probably the most skilled fighter in history. It must be distinguished what he does in the ring and what type of resume, titles etc he has.

    I dont think Floyd has the best resume, but its not even debatable that he executed boxing in a way it will never happen again.I dont think their will ever be a fighter who could fight his "bums" and come out with a plus minus of 30! I think he beats SRL based off of mental prowess and dedication. But skillwise, omg we dont need to talk about that because SRL made waay too many mistakes.
    You are on point my friend, Skillwise, the guy is gifted!!!!

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    • DeadLikeMe
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      #92
      The October issue of Ring surveyed many boxing writers and historians on the greatest fighters of the Modern Era (post-WWII). They were each asked to rank the 20 greatest fighters with 1st receiving 20 points, 2nd receiving 19, 3rd receiving 18, etc... with first place votes bracketed. The top 20 is as follows (HT to chrismart83 on scene):


      1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
      2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
      3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
      4. Roberto Duran - 296
      5. Joe Louis - 293
      6. Ray Leonard - 258
      7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
      8. Archie Moore - 189
      9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
      10. Ezzard Charles - 164
      11. Pernell Whitaker - 132
      12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
      13. Marvin Hagler - 117
      14. Carlos Monzon - 98
      15. Eder Jofre - 86
      16. Sandy Saddler - 82
      17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
      18. Rocky Marciano - 77
      19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
      20. Ike Williams - 55

      Others receiving votes:
      Charley Burley - 53
      Evander Holyfield - 42
      George Foreman - 41
      Billy Conn - 39
      Larry Holmes - 36
      Manny Pacquiao - 36
      Kid Galivan - 28
      Salvador Sanchez - 28
      Emile Griffith - 27
      Jose Napoles - 27
      Holman Williams - 27
      Mike Tyson - 26
      Joe Frazier - 22
      Alexis Arguello - 20
      Marcel Cerdan - 20
      Carlos Ortiz - 20
      Ricardo Lopez - 19
      Jake LaMotta - 17
      Ruben Olivares - 17
      Pascual Perez - 12
      Marco Antonio Barrera - 9
      Oscar De La Hoya - 9
      Michael Spinks - 9
      Tommy Hearns - 7
      Miguel Canto - 5
      Bob Foster - 5
      Jimmy Bivins - 4
      Lennox Lewis - 4
      Sammy Angott - 3

      Authors and historians surveyed were: Ron Borges (Ring), Bernard Fernandez (Ring), Doug Fischer (Ring), Norm Frauenhiem (Ring), Lee Groves (Tales from the Vault), Craig Hamilton (Historian), Thomas Hauser (Author), Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sport), Matt McGrain (Historian), Clay Moyle (Author), Martin Mulcahey (Historian), Patrick Myler Author), Jack Obermayer (Writer), Adam Pollack (Author), Cliff Rold (Historian), Michael Rosenthal (Ring), Mike Silver (Author), Tim Smith (Ring), Springs Toledo (Author), Anson Wainwright (Writer).
      These are how the writers and historians ranked them this month.

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        #93
        Floyd, and it's not even close.

        I mean, there's actually people that think he's TBE, lol.

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        • BoxingIsGreat
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          #94
          Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
          These are how the writers and historians ranked them this month.
          The October issue of Ring surveyed many boxing writers and historians on the greatest fighters of the Modern Era (post-WWII). They were each asked to rank the 20 greatest fighters with 1st receiving 20 points, 2nd receiving 19, 3rd receiving 18, etc... with first place votes bracketed. The top 20 is as follows (HT to chrismart83 on scene):


          1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
          2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
          3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
          4. Roberto Duran - 296
          5. Joe Louis - 293
          6. Ray Leonard - 258
          7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
          8. Archie Moore - 189
          9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
          10. Ezzard Charles - 164
          11. Pernell Whitaker - 132
          12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
          13. Marvin Hagler - 117
          14. Carlos Monzon - 98
          15. Eder Jofre - 86
          16. Sandy Saddler - 82
          17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
          18. Rocky Marciano - 77
          19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
          20. Ike Williams - 55

          Others receiving votes:
          Charley Burley - 53
          Evander Holyfield - 42
          George Foreman - 41
          Billy Conn - 39
          Larry Holmes - 36
          Manny Pacquiao - 36
          Kid Galivan - 28
          Salvador Sanchez - 28
          Emile Griffith - 27
          Jose Napoles - 27
          Holman Williams - 27
          Mike Tyson - 26
          Joe Frazier - 22
          Alexis Arguello - 20
          Marcel Cerdan - 20
          Carlos Ortiz - 20
          Ricardo Lopez - 19
          Jake LaMotta - 17
          Ruben Olivares - 17
          Pascual Perez - 12
          Marco Antonio Barrera - 9
          Oscar De La Hoya - 9
          Michael Spinks - 9
          Tommy Hearns - 7
          Miguel Canto - 5
          Bob Foster - 5
          Jimmy Bivins - 4
          Lennox Lewis - 4
          Sammy Angott - 3

          Authors and historians surveyed were: Ron Borges (Ring), Bernard Fernandez (Ring), Doug Fischer (Ring), Norm Frauenhiem (Ring), Lee Groves (Tales from the Vault), Craig Hamilton (Historian), Thomas Hauser (Author), Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sport), Matt McGrain (Historian), Clay Moyle (Author), Martin Mulcahey (Historian), Patrick Myler Author), Jack Obermayer (Writer), Adam Pollack (Author), Cliff Rold (Historian), Michael Rosenthal (Ring), Mike Silver (Author), Tim Smith (Ring), Springs Toledo (Author), Anson Wainwright (Writer).

          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          This must hurt many people here. The expert panel even has a few hardcore Floyd haters.
          Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 10-07-2014, 11:24 AM.

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          • HeGotPacProblem
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            #95
            Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
            The October issue of Ring surveyed many boxing writers and historians on the greatest fighters of the Modern Era (post-WWII). They were each asked to rank the 20 greatest fighters with 1st receiving 20 points, 2nd receiving 19, 3rd receiving 18, etc... with first place votes bracketed. The top 20 is as follows (HT to chrismart83 on scene):


            1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
            2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
            3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
            4. Roberto Duran - 296
            5. Joe Louis - 293
            6. Ray Leonard - 258
            7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
            8. Archie Moore - 189
            9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
            10. Ezzard Charles - 164
            11. Pernell Whitaker - 132
            12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
            13. Marvin Hagler - 117
            14. Carlos Monzon - 98
            15. Eder Jofre - 86
            16. Sandy Saddler - 82
            17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
            18. Rocky Marciano - 77
            19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
            20. Ike Williams - 55

            Others receiving votes:
            Charley Burley - 53
            Evander Holyfield - 42
            George Foreman - 41
            Billy Conn - 39
            Larry Holmes - 36
            Manny Pacquiao - 36
            Kid Galivan - 28
            Salvador Sanchez - 28
            Emile Griffith - 27
            Jose Napoles - 27
            Holman Williams - 27
            Mike Tyson - 26
            Joe Frazier - 22
            Alexis Arguello - 20
            Marcel Cerdan - 20
            Carlos Ortiz - 20
            Ricardo Lopez - 19
            Jake LaMotta - 17
            Ruben Olivares - 17
            Pascual Perez - 12
            Marco Antonio Barrera - 9
            Oscar De La Hoya - 9
            Michael Spinks - 9
            Tommy Hearns - 7
            Miguel Canto - 5
            Bob Foster - 5
            Jimmy Bivins - 4
            Lennox Lewis - 4
            Sammy Angott - 3

            Authors and historians surveyed were: Ron Borges (Ring), Bernard Fernandez (Ring), Doug Fischer (Ring), Norm Frauenhiem (Ring), Lee Groves (Tales from the Vault), Craig Hamilton (Historian), Thomas Hauser (Author), Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sport), Matt McGrain (Historian), Clay Moyle (Author), Martin Mulcahey (Historian), Patrick Myler Author), Jack Obermayer (Writer), Adam Pollack (Author), Cliff Rold (Historian), Michael Rosenthal (Ring), Mike Silver (Author), Tim Smith (Ring), Springs Toledo (Author), Anson Wainwright (Writer).

            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            This must hurt many people here. The expert panel even has a few hardcore Floyd haters.
            What does this have to do with the topic? Lol at insecure Mayweather fans. One thing they have in common is insecurity. The man anointed himself TBE and gets branded on everything he and his posse wears and his fans post on here comparing him to Pacman at every opportunity. TBE is not being #12 on a list of ATGS so why even post about it? Pacman would never call himself the best ever.
            Last edited by HeGotPacProblem; 10-07-2014, 11:36 AM.

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            • BoxingIsGreat
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              #96
              Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
              What does this have to do with the topic? Lol at insecure Mayweather fans. One thing they have in common is insecurity. The man anointed himself TBE and gets branded on everything he and his posse wears and his fans post on here comparing him to Pacman at every opportunity.
              It has a lot to do with it. It is a list of how the most prominent boxing experts now think as to who is great and top and who isn't in the upper echelon. Overrated boxers don't make the Top 12.
              Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 10-07-2014, 11:41 AM.

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              • HeGotPacProblem
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                #97
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                It has a lot to do with it. It is a list of how the most prominent boxing experts now think as to who is great and top and who isn't in the upper echelon.
                Do you read? Thread is titled most overrated boxer...not an invitation for who is better between Pacman and Mayweather. If you and Mayweather feel he is TBE he is obviously overrated since he is #12 on that list you beating your chest about.

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
                  Do you read? Thread is titled most overrated boxer...not an invitation for who is better between Pacman and Mayweather. If you and Mayweather feel he is TBE he is obviously overrated since he is #12 on that list you beating your chest about.
                  I'm not beating my chest about anything. Many here are saying he is so overrated. I am just saying Top 12 best fighter isn't and can't be so overrated.

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                  • HeGotPacProblem
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    I'm not beating my chest about anything. Many here are saying he is so overrated. I am just saying Top 12 best fighter isn't and can't be so overrated.
                    It is if many of his fans believe he is the best. The best is #1.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
                      It is if many of his fans believe he is the best. The best is #1.


                      Exactly, some of his fans think he's TBE, that right there is overrating the hell out of him.

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