Why do Pacquiao's opponents get paid more money than Floyd's opponents?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Yeah, this isn't about what Floyd says, it's about what Arum and Pacquiao filed by law with the commission. And what they filed makes a lot of sense.
    yeah. look at how easy I dismissed B0xeo when he claimed dan said this when he didn't.

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      #72
      What's a Guaranteed Purse?
      A guaranteed purse, as it relates to the agreement made between a fighter and her/his promoter, can serve as the boxer's entire salary for a given fight or the minimum salary he stands to earn if his overall salary is dependent on a combination of factors such as PPV sales and sponsorships.

      Some assume an elite fighter's revenue is directly linked to PPV sales but that link is more indirect than direct. A fighter's overall purse can be a complex undertaking and often depends on several factors, most notably his guaranteed purse and the percentage of PPV income/sponsorship revenue a fighter agrees to accept if additional streams of income factor into the contractual equation.

      The contractual agreement for Pacquiao's opponent, Tim Bradley, is much easier to ascertain because 'Desert Storm' will seemingly take home a flat $5 Mil USD lump sum regardless of the number of PPV buys and revenue generated by gate sales and sponsorships. Also, in probable stark contrast to the complexity of Manny's purse, Tim Bradley's reported guarantee from his promoter, Bob Arum, matches the number reported by Nevada State Athletic Commission.

      Below is a list of Manny Pacquiao's most recent "purported" actual guaranteed fight purses based on alleged statements made by his promoter. They may not match the Nevada State Athletic Commission's reports which only take into account commission agreements.
      •vs. Marquez (2011): $22 Mil USD
      •vs. Mosley: (2011): $20 Mil USD
      •vs. Margarito (2010) $15 Mil USD
      •vs. Clottey (2010) $12 Mil USD
      •vs. Cotto: (2009) $7.5 Mil USD
      •vs. Hatton: (2009) $12 Mil USD

      * The accuracy of the figures above are not 100% confirmed

      Earlier this month, Floyd Mayweather's $32 Mil USD guaranteed purse for fighting Miguel Cotto set a boxing record, exceeding Mike Tyson's $30 Mil USD guarantee he received for Holyfield vs Tyson II in 1997. However, Oscar de La Hoya owns the record for the largest overall purse in the history of the sport, receiving a purported $52 Mil USD for Mayweather vs De La Hoya in 2007.

      http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/2260-Manny-Pacquiao-Guaranteed-$26-Mil-USD-for-Bradley-Bout

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      • IMDAZED
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        #73
        Originally posted by Deevel916
        What's a Guaranteed Purse?
        A guaranteed purse, as it relates to the agreement made between a fighter and her/his promoter, can serve as the boxer's entire salary for a given fight or the minimum salary he stands to earn if his overall salary is dependent on a combination of factors such as PPV sales and sponsorships.

        Some assume an elite fighter's revenue is directly linked to PPV sales but that link is more indirect than direct. A fighter's overall purse can be a complex undertaking and often depends on several factors, most notably his guaranteed purse and the percentage of PPV income/sponsorship revenue a fighter agrees to accept if additional streams of income factor into the contractual equation.

        The contractual agreement for Pacquiao's opponent, Tim Bradley, is much easier to ascertain because 'Desert Storm' will seemingly take home a flat $5 Mil USD lump sum regardless of the number of PPV buys and revenue generated by gate sales and sponsorships. Also, in probable stark contrast to the complexity of Manny's purse, Tim Bradley's reported guarantee from his promoter, Bob Arum, matches the number reported by Nevada State Athletic Commission.

        Below is a list of Manny Pacquiao's most recent "purported" actual guaranteed fight purses based on alleged statements made by his promoter. They may not match the Nevada State Athletic Commission's reports which only take into account commission agreements.
        •vs. Marquez (2011): $22 Mil USD
        •vs. Mosley: (2011): $20 Mil USD
        •vs. Margarito (2010) $15 Mil USD
        •vs. Clottey (2010) $12 Mil USD
        •vs. Cotto: (2009) $7.5 Mil USD
        •vs. Hatton: (2009) $12 Mil USD

        * The accuracy of the figures above are not 100% confirmed

        Earlier this month, Floyd Mayweather's $32 Mil USD guaranteed purse for fighting Miguel Cotto set a boxing record, exceeding Mike Tyson's $30 Mil USD guarantee he received for Holyfield vs Tyson II in 1997. However, Oscar de La Hoya owns the record for the largest overall purse in the history of the sport, receiving a purported $52 Mil USD for Mayweather vs De La Hoya in 2007.

        http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/2260-Manny-Pacquiao-Guaranteed-$26-Mil-USD-for-Bradley-Bout
        The article you linked explains the discrepancy in Pacquiao's #'s but it appears you missed some very glaring parts of that article.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          Well its the only article that thoroughly breaks down how Pac's purse money is structured.
          Imdazed response pretty much kills your argument.

          I'm surprised you are going so hard, especially seeing how the TS argument draws such a small sample and purposely leaves out certain fights to skew the answer.

          We've been posting things not from Floyd's mouth, but from other sources based on what is filed in Nevada, BY LAW!!!!

          So either everyone and the commission is in on a huge conspiracy to hide something or this post and those co signing it are just wrong. At what point are you guys man enough to just say-my bad, I was wrong?

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          • Daddy T
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            #75
            you bean counters should have your own section. I'm talking a full on section for number crunchers where ye can talk about who makes this and who makes that and how so and so made 12.4% more than this other guy and why what's his face is smarter than some other dude because he earned 35.43% more than you know who over the last fiscal year.

            Entertaining shit right there.

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            • Deevel916
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              #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Imdazed response pretty much kills your argument.

              I'm surprised you are going so hard, especially seeing how the TS argument draws such a small sample and purposely leaves out certain fights to skew the answer.

              We've been posting things not from Floyd's mouth, but from other sources based on what is filed in Nevada, BY LAW!!!!

              So either everyone and the commission is in on a huge conspiracy to hide something or this post and those co signing it are just wrong. At what point are you guys man enough to just say-my bad, I was wrong?
              The point is, what's reported to/by the commission doesn't tell the entire story of what a fighter's total purse is.

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              • boxing maniac
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                #77
                Cuz he fights guys who actually have a chance to beat him !

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  The point is, what's reported to/by the commission doesn't tell the entire story of what a fighter's total purse is.
                  Then just say that. You are absolutely right. what is also clear is that the number reported to Nevada by law is the number EVERY one uses as the guaranteed purse, even Bob, who knows manny is going to get more later.

                  I just don't understand why you just can't post "I was wrong" and move on?

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                  • Deevel916
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Then just say that. You are absolutely right. what is also clear is that the number reported to Nevada by law is the number EVERY one uses as the guaranteed purse, even Bob, who knows manny is going to get more later.

                    I just don't understand why you just can't post "I was wrong" and move on?
                    So which is it? Am I right or am I wrong?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by boxing maniac
                      Cuz he fights guys who actually have a chance to beat him !
                      like who? both pac and floyd are full of ****.

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