who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[Wizardsh]

Ward is number one but if he doest fight soon it's going to be froch

[IronDanHamza]

Why is my point horrible. My point is based on every other sporting ranking system, which to a point is league based. It has to be.

Boxing isn't run like a League with a points system.

To compare it to sports that are is extremely ******ed.

[slimshandy69]

At least you went off that horrendous Corrie Sanders example.

Once again, boxing is not a points system and is not league based.

which goes against the grain of pretty much every other sport...which is a flaw in boxing is it not??

You have to have bounderies otherwise you could take the piss.

If buster douglas after defeating tyson literally fought twice in 3 years beating Deontay wilder level competition, and tyson went on his run after he was released from prison(ets say right after the buster douglas loss hypothetical i know) by your woeful logic buster douglas in ranked number 1.

You have no standards or bounderies to your criteria. Basically you are saying andre ward can dine off the suoer 6 for the rest of his life.

If he say retired in 2011 and came bck in 2015 to fight a live super middle, do you still have ward ranked number 1 in the super middle weight division. You have no scope whether he has declined, you have no logic of his form, but because he had a good super 6 where he cheated and fought all his fights at home he would be number 1 in your eyes...

Im sorry me and divine hammer are truely ****ing you mate in this debate...

[slimshandy69]

Boxing isn't run like a League with a points system.

To compare it to sports that are is extremely ******ed.

Ok so what is the criteria for the ranking system, please tell me. Im intrigued to tell me at what point does froch overtake ward in the rankings and how does he accomplish this....

good luck...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

which goes against the grain of pretty much every other sport...which is a flaw in boxing is it not?.

What, you mean in the same way that boxing "goes against the grain" because two guys are literally punching each other in the face?

If buster douglas after defeating tyson literally fought twice in 3 years beating Deontay wilder level competition, and tyson went on his run after he was released from prison(ets say right after the buster douglas loss hypothetical i know) by your woeful logic buster douglas in ranked number 1.

Wow so you didn't embarrass yourself enough with Corrie Sanders, now you're going to use Buster Douglas as an example? What a ***ing ******

[LacedUp]

Before anymore people say Rodriguez has never been a top 5 SMW, here you go:

http://www.wbanews.com/wp-content/up...13-october.pdf



Rodriguez was #3 and Groves was #2.

This is the first source of 3 that I've posted that even has Groves higher than Rodriguez leading up to their matchups with said contenders (froch/ward).

http://www.telegram.com/article/2013...plate=printart

Edwin Rodriguez is ranked #1 according to the WBC rankings leading up to his fight. I'm not sure where Groves is on the charts.

You didn't just use orgs rankings

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ok so what is the criteria for the ranking system, please tell me. Im intrigued to tell me at what point does froch overtake ward in the rankings and how does he accomplish this....

good luck...

When he beats Ward. Not hard to understand.

[sicko]

too bad ward is never coming back and even if he did he wouldn't fight anyone good. Stevenson, kovalev, hopkins and froch all destroy ward.

...yeah...ok

[KevinHenry007]

I just did a bit more research and Groves was ranked #5 by The Ring and Rodriguez was #7, respectively.

The reason Rodriguez dropped out of rankings was because he failed to make weight for the slated 168 lb bout.

And just so you guys know, you laugh at the rankings I provided, but according to many, The Ring has become a joke over the years so it's definitely not the end all be all like it once was.

Again, Groves was #5 and Rodriguez was #7 according to the ring. They were the same caliber opponent, but I still believe Rodriguez had the better resume.

[BattlingNelson]

http://www.telegram.com/article/2013...plate=printart

Edwin Rodriguez is ranked #1 according to the WBC rankings leading up to his fight. I'm not sure where Groves is on the charts.

If you take that Info along with the fact that Kashtonov is Ward's no. 1 ranked WBA contender at present, what does that tell you?