who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[Weebler I]

Provide something to the contrary? I already did... twice.

What was Groves or DeGale ranked in that same class?

I'm talking about the Ring Rankings not badlefthook (please). The TBR ranking - which I mentioned - supports what I said, that Rodriguez was not top 5 SMW.

When Froch fought Groves the second time, he was ranked a top 5 SMW. Obviously Bute and Kessler were too.

[IronDanHamza]

you said Corrie saunders Wlad analogy is woeful because corrie saunders got kncoked out, yet Chad dawson got koed in the firdt round in his next fight, so surely that makes that win horrendous going by your logic.

Rodriguez couldnt even make the weight.

Compare that to kessler, bute(ward didnt dare fight and was ranked number 1 super middle), Mack, groves times 2.

Throw in the fact that froch has either degale or chavez jnr lined up and ward has no one, suggests froch beats ward not only by resume but by activity as well.

So sure you would have to admit that by any sane sporting ranking system that uses basic maths shows that froch is the number 1 super middle in terms of ranking.

But you were comparing Corrie Sanders with Andre Ward now not all of those other fighters.

So Dirk is right your analogy is absolutely terrible and logic-free.

[IronDanHamza]

Edwin Rodriguez has never been ranked in the Top 5 in his life at any weight class.

[KevinHenry007]

Edwin Rodriguez has never been ranked in the Top 5 in his life at any weight class.

He was ranked #3 by the WBA in Oct or Nov 2013

[LacedUp]

That's not true because I brought mine about 6 hours after they went on Sale.

Not sure why they said that. But it definitely wasn't.

Still sold out pretty quick though.

I remember that was what was said. But whether it was propaganda or not is debatable.

Did you get yours from ticketmaster?

[slimshandy69]

But you were comparing Corrie Sanders with Andre Ward now not all of those other fighters.

So Dirk is right your analogy is absolutely terrible and logic-free.

no its not, he kept on harper on about Andre wards dominant 115-113 decision over froch where he lost the last 3 rounds, and that was his basis for being ranked 1.

So i used the corriesaunders analogy over wlad, yet he harped on about how saunders got koed in his next fight.

But my point is about ranking points, and consistantcy. Which almost every sport apart from boxing abides by. Froch has unquestionably perfomed better than ward since the super 6, in terms of performacne, activity and resume.

pLUS I WAS MAKING HIS POINT EVEN WORSE BY POINTING OUT that Chad dawson got koed in the first round in his next fight. Which surely weakens wards only 2 fights since the super 6.

take head to head aside, if there was a league system going on froch destroys ward.

Chelsea beat liverpool and mancity twice last season yet finsihed third, according to Dirk Digglers logic chelsea deserve the premier league title do they not???

[LacedUp]

Whatever you say man. I just provided two links where Rodriguez was ranked higher than Groves/DeGale and you still refuse to acknowledge it.

I also broke down Groves and Rodriguez individual resume's and posted a video of Edwin running thru Grachev in less than 3 minutes. You continued to call Edwin garbage even though Erdei, Bute and Sillklah couldn't. You then proceeded to praise Daniel Geale, Paul Smith and Kenny Anderson while calling Edwin Rodriguez garbage.

BTW, the only time Groves became ranked higher was when Rodriguez lost.

For what it's worth, have a great day.

Dude are you serious? Groves has been on rings top 10 list for more than 100 weeks.

[Mr.Fantastic]

If the shoe was in the other foot, they would be picking Ward regardless.

This is like the rabbit and the turtle race. The rabbit may of won the sprint(Ward beating Froch) but the turtle kept going and going(Froch beating challenge after challenge while Ward just sits back).

Froch deserves that #1 spot due to hard work and sacrifice.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

no its not, he kept on harper on about Andre wards dominant 115-113 decision over froch where he lost the last 3 rounds, and that was his basis for being ranked 1.

So i used the corriesaunders analogy over wlad, yet he harped on about how saunders got koed in his next fight.

Andre Ward beat everyone he faced in the Super Six in convincing fashion. Please tell me when Corrie Sanders did something like this.

Absolutely embarrassing analogy.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

take head to head aside, if there was a league system

But there isn't a league system you mong!