who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[KevinHenry007]

Before anymore people say Rodriguez has never been a top 5 SMW, here you go:

http://www.wbanews.com/wp-content/up...13-october.pdf



Rodriguez was #3 and Groves was #2.

This is the first source of 3 that I've posted that even has Groves higher than Rodriguez leading up to their matchups with said contenders (froch/ward).

[IronDanHamza]

no its not, he kept on harper on about Andre wards dominant 115-113 decision over froch where he lost the last 3 rounds, and that was his basis for being ranked 1.

So i used the corriesaunders analogy over wlad, yet he harped on about how saunders got koed in his next fight.

Exactly, you compared Ward to Saunders. Not all the other fighters you brought up.

Difference is Sanders got knocked out in his next fight and did nothing again.

I.e It's a terrible example.

But my point is about ranking points, and consistantcy. Which almost every sport apart from boxing abides by. Froch has unquestionably perfomed better than ward since the super 6, in terms of performacne, activity and resume.

pLUS I WAS MAKING HIS POINT EVEN WORSE BY POINTING OUT that Chad dawson got koed in the first round in his next fight. Which surely weakens wards only 2 fights since the super 6.

His point has nothing to do with Dawson so you bringing that up is irrelevant to anything like he also pointed out to you.

take head to head aside, if there was a league system going on froch destroys ward.

Chelsea beat liverpool and mancity twice last season yet finsihed third, according to Dirk Digglers logic chelsea deserve the premier league title do they not???

Now this has to be a joke

The Premier League is a points system. Boxing is not.

If that was a serious example that's more ******ed than the Saunders-Ward one.

But I very much doubt it is because it's just too ******ed to be serious.

[sicko]

With all this Ward Talk, now is a good time to get back into the ring! lol

[IronDanHamza]

Before anymore people say Rodriguez has never been a top 5 SMW, here you go:

http://www.wbanews.com/wp-content/up...13-october.pdf



Rodriguez was #3 and Groves was #2.

This is the first source of 3 that I've posted that even has Groves higher than Rodriguez leading up to their matchups with said contenders (froch/ward).

That's Top 5 with the WBA Sactioning Body rankings which are worthless.

He's never been Top 5 on a credible overall Top 10 list.

[IronDanHamza]

I remember that was what was said. But whether it was propaganda or not is debatable.

Did you get yours from ticketmaster?

TicketMaster or whatever the official site was.

Yeah they did say that, they definitely said it. But it's not true because like I said I got mine like 6 hours later.

I tried to buy them like half hour after they went on sale and it said Sold Out (Because of the amount of people trying to buy it all at once) so I thought ah well I missed my chance then 6 or so hours later I thought I'd try it one last time and I managed to get 2 tickets next to each other. Pretty good ones too.

[slimshandy69]

Exactly, you compared Ward to Saunders. Not all the other fighters you brought up.

Difference is Sanders got knocked out in his next fight and did nothing again.

I.e It's a terrible example.



His point has nothing to do with Dawson so you bringing that up is irrelevant to anything like he also pointed out to you.



Now this has to be a joke

The Premier League is a points system. Boxing is not.

If that was a serious example that's more ******ed than the Saunders-Ward one.

But I very much doubt it is because it's just too ******ed to be serious.

Why is my point horrible. My point is based on every other sporting ranking system, which to a point is league based. It has to be.

To be the best at forumua 1, tennis, cricket,golf, soccer, you have to have activity and consistency.

Should tiger woods be ahead of rory mcilroy in the golf rankings. By dirk digglers and yours he should. THATS MY POINT. Tiger woods has won 14 majors and probably beaten rory slightly more head to head. But rory in the last year has been better and more consistant. Hence why hes world number 1.

Froch has beaten better ranked opponets and more of them since the super 6, PLEASE TELL ME HOW my point is illogical.

If your arguement is 2this is boxing, its different to every other sport" then fine we will have to agree to disagree. But to say that my reasoning as to why froch should be rankd number 1 is horrible is well, indeed horrible...

[KevinHenry007]

http://www.telegram.com/article/2013...plate=printart

Edwin Rodriguez is ranked #1 according to the WBC rankings leading up to his fight. I'm not sure where Groves is on the charts.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Why is my point horrible. My point is based on every other sporting ranking system, which to a point is league based. It has to be.

To be the best at forumua 1, tennis, cricket,golf, soccer, you have to have activity and consistency.

Should tiger woods be ahead of rory mcilroy in the golf rankings. By dirk digglers and yours he should. THATS MY POINT. Tiger woods has won 14 majors and probably beaten rory slightly more head to head. But rory in the last year has been better and more consistant. Hence why hes world number 1.

Froch has beaten better ranked opponets and more of them since the super 6, PLEASE TELL ME HOW my point is illogical.

If your arguement is 2this is boxing, its different to every other sport" then fine we will have to agree to disagree. But to say that my reasoning as to why froch should be rankd number 1 is horrible is well, indeed horrible...

At least you went off that horrendous Corrie Sanders example.

Once again, boxing is not a points system and is not league based.

[RightJab]

i haven't seen a shred of evidence that indicates you even watch boxing, bro.

people who call golovkin "GGG" are usually newbies who can't spell gennady, golovkin, or gennadyevich.


you sound like you haven't had your cherry popped yet, bro. come to NSB and let me ease it in.

What are you a ***ing detective? Evidence? If i wanted to be further educated i wouldn't come to you 'bro' i'd do what i'm doing now and starting to compete in bouts, i'll learn more doing that than reading your one sided opinions .

You're blinded by ignorance/don't like hearing the other side of the coin so's to speak, "if it's not NE's idea/suits his ideologies it's a bad/incorrect statement". Proof? Well re-read our exchange, thats proof for everyone to see.

So there's really no point in pursuing the matter really is there, i'm happy to agree to disagree on this one. I don't care for the pettiness NSB provides (i never took notice in the few years i've been here but today has taught me you're cut from that cloth too). Which i didn't think you where, i was under the impression you where one of 'the normal one's'.

Someone disputes/replies/expresses their opinion on a matter you're discussing and you don't like it you're shook, and BOOM you're allover the keyboard like a coked up energizer bunny. Do you want a cape to go with your superiority complex?

Serious stumpy, i don't care anymore, you stay in Ward Land and i'll remain open to both sides of an argument. I've already said Ward is more skilled and does amazing things, just not enough, as a fan i want to see more of him if anything. I don't know what you're malfunction is unless you are indeed a fruitcake.

Years here/post count does not buy you 'my view is more valid than yours' points you know.... Funny i got 4 greens for my last reply to you, i must be getting something right.... Again, g'day OldAmerica. X

Edit: oooh 5th green for that post, only two limeys, seems a fair few don't like your attitude. Use some of that money you have, and enroll yourself in charm school or whatever....

Anyway, buried 6 foot under, done, this bores me.

[Divine Hammer]

With all this Ward Talk, now is a good time to get back into the ring! lol

too bad ward is never coming back and even if he did he wouldn't fight anyone good. stevenson, kovalev, hopkins and froch all destroy ward.