who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Froch would walk through Rodriguez. He has absolutely nothing for Froch. He wouldn't give him the kind of trouble Groves did.

[New England]

I really don't get it; especially when we're talking resume.

Let's even give it the "eye test" like LacedUp; Edwin Rodriguez has never even squeeked out any close decisions or been in any close fights unlike Groves.

I really don't get how Edwin is so garbage, but Groves is so great.

he beat a weight drained glen johnson and james degale in a close fight, bro. he's a legend.


in truth, it's because he's a british white guy, and they go gaga over them in the shire.

[KevinHenry007]

he beat a weight drained glen johnson and james degale in a close fight, bro. he's a legend.


in truth, it's because he's a british white guy, and they go gaga over them in the shire.

Don't forget the big bad Kenny Anderson

Thanks for the clarification, I was starting to worry.

[LacedUp]

why, because of your "eye test?"


their resume are quite similar. neither are all that good. the only thing rodriguez is missing is almost knocking out carl froch, which isn't exactly good support for the idea that carl froch isthe planet's best SMW.

No, because he does everything better than Rodriguez.

I've never claimed Froch is the planet's best SMW.

there's also this....

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I really don't get it; especially when we're talking resume.

Let's even give it the "eye test" like LacedUp; Edwin Rodriguez has never even squeeked out any close decisions or been in any close fights unlike Groves.

I really don't get how Edwin is so garbage, but Groves is so great.

You spouted gospel about Rodriguez having fought better fighters than Groves, as if Denis Grachev is anything special. DeGale alone would humiliate him with ease.

Because Edwin Rodriguez never fought anyone as good as DeGale that's why. Or do you think he'd beat DeGale?

Rodriguez is just average at best, he'll never be a champion. He doesn't have the tools. He was so crap against Ward it was unreal. Groves does everything better, except for taking a shot maybe

[Dirk Diggler UK]

he beat a weight drained glen johnson and james degale in a close fight, bro. he's a legend.


in truth, it's because he's a british white guy, and they go gaga over them in the shire.

What does race have to do with it?

You fawn over muscled black men but no one's bringing your personal inferiority complexes into this debate, bro.

[LacedUp]

he beat a weight drained glen johnson and james degale in a close fight, bro. he's a legend.


in truth, it's because he's a british white guy, and they go gaga over them in the shire.

Why are you trying to pull a "british white guy" card?

You're better than that.

[New England]

Froch would walk through Rodriguez. He has absolutely nothing for Froch. He wouldn't give him the kind of trouble Groves did.

they've sparred. froch credited rodriguez for helping him prepare for the abraham fight, IIRC. it was definitely more of a learning experience for rodriguez than it was for froch, but he was able to give him very good work.


i know rodriguez decently well, actually, but i'm not going to get into a ton of detail.

[New England]

Why are you trying to pull a "british white guy" card?

You're better than that.

the brits don't go gaga over their whities? come off it, lad.

[LacedUp]

they've sparred. froch credited rodriguez for helping him prepare for the abraham fight, IIRC. it was definitely more of a learning experience for rodriguez than it was for froch, but he was able to give him very good work.


i know rodriguez decently well, actually, but i'm not going to get into a ton of detail.

He also sparred Groves when Groves was 20 and said he'd be a future world champion.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

they've sparred. froch credited rodriguez for helping him prepare for the abraham fight, IIRC. it was definitely more of a learning experience for rodriguez than it was for froch, but he was able to give him very good work.


i know rodriguez decently well, actually, but i'm not going to get into a ton of detail.