who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[TOBYLEE1]

Love Froch but Ward is simply the superior fighter

Froch don't even want to fight him again.

[LacedUp]

He didn't have too, he beat the guy that did in less than 3 minutes. He also beat Don George who blew Cornelius White out in 1 round.

So again, if we're talking about better resume's, I clearly explained how Rodriguez has beaten the better fighters.

I hope Rodriguez and Groves do fight; I'll be rooting for Groves.

No you haven't at all. You keep mentioning Grachev as if he's special.

Oh he beat Don George? The guy who lost to that guy Sierra who Groves beat like nothing? Wupti do!

Denis Grachev is pure crap mate. That's it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Rodriguez? He is awful. No wonder Ward has become so entitled since HBO were dumb enough to pay him $2m to fight that bum.

[New England]

Rodriguez? He is awful. No wonder Ward has become so entitled since HBO were dumb enough to pay him $2m to fight that bum.

then what is george groves? they're a similar tier of fighter.

[LacedUp]

the stark difference in your attitude toward the careers of groves and rodriguez is just ridiculous.

I'm not even claiming there to be a stark difference - I just laughed at the thought of Edwin Rodriguez having beaten better fighters than Groves or is a better fighter when he clearly hasn't/isn't.

Groves is on a completely different level to Rodriguez.

[LacedUp]

Rodriguez? He is awful. No wonder Ward has become so entitled since HBO were dumb enough to pay him $2m to fight that bum.

Haha, these guys are saying he's better than Groves

then what is george groves? they're a similar tier of fighter.

No they're so clearly not.

[Daylyt]

I voted Carl Froch because at some point you have to fall out of contention if you dont fight other great fighters in your division. To me Ward hasnt had a decent fight like you said since Carl Froch bout which is the reason he had the claim to the Best Super Middleweight in the division.

However since then like you said Froch has been on a murderous winning streak against other best and ranked super middleweights. Ward had the opportunity to fight bute but he decided not to fight him and Froch destroyed him instead.

[New England]

Haha, these guys are saying he's better than Groves



No they're so clearly not.

why, because of your "eye test?"


their resume are quite similar. neither are all that good. the only thing rodriguez is missing is almost knocking out carl froch, which isn't exactly good support for the idea that carl froch isthe planet's best SMW.

[New England]

I'm not even claiming there to be a stark difference - I just laughed at the thought of Edwin Rodriguez having beaten better fighters than Groves or is a better fighter when he clearly hasn't/isn't.

Groves is on a completely different level to Rodriguez.

Haha, these guys are saying he's better than Groves



No they're so clearly not.

there's also this....

[KevinHenry007]

the stark difference in your attitude toward the careers of groves and rodriguez is just ridiculous.

I really don't get it; especially when we're talking resume.

Let's even give it the "eye test" like LacedUp; Edwin Rodriguez has never even squeeked out any close decisions or been in any close fights unlike Groves.

I really don't get how Edwin is so garbage, but Groves is so great.