What is supposed to be good about Porter?

[LacedUp]

when i rank a fighter historically, i look at his resume and his ability, with a stronger emphasis on resume. this is actually much less subjective than it is to rank a fighter p4p. p4p lists are completely abstract, unless fighters have common opponents or have fought each other.

when i rank fighters p4p, i look much more heavily at his ability. i want to know who the best fighter on the planet is, not whose resume looks the best. that's what a pound for pound list is.

you're projecting with the p4p list. these fighters cannot fight, yet we compare them anyway. when i rank a fighter p4p, i'm comparing them as if they were the same size, based on his ability and his accomplishments.


ward hit froch, kessler, so hard the brits forget all about it.


"our carl is a great fighter
andre ward, the guy who shut him out, sucks doe!"


froch won't even fight andre ward. let's just make sure that's understood by everybody in the thread. froch won't even fight ward.

you guys drop andre ward from your list quickly because you don't like him for what he's done to your heroes. he fought a top 10 fighter in november, and shut him out. every other major ranking body has him in their top 5. it is what it is, man. i don't have any bias like that.


if ward doesn't have a fight by november, regardless of whether or not a fight is scheduled, i'll remove him. when he whips ass, as long as it's not against ron salka, i'll probably put him back to the top of the list if he looks great.

i'm not denying Ward is a great fighter. I think he could step up to light heavy and cruiser and become champion if he wanted to. He's that good.

But I still fail to understand how you can jump Ward ahead of Mayweather when he's only had 1 easy fight in two years and Mayweather fought extremely well against Canelo and then had a tough fight with another champion in his division.

Would Floyd still have been your #1 had he fought someone like Luiz Collazo and looked like a million dollars?

I just can't see how you can increase Ward's standing based on nothing but Floyd had a tough fight. It's silly.

[IronDanHamza]

he struggled markedly less than mayweather did against maidana. if you deny that you are biased.

Well I had Ward-Bika closer than I did Mayweather-Maidana.

Regardless, both struggled.

[dan_cov]

He a great clincher doe!

[LacedUp]

Dan you called it!

I didn't believe it at first, but as you can see from my posts today I favoured Brook as they went in

Elated that Brook won! Porter all about excuses now.

[TMTForever]

Dan nailed it. porter fought like sakio bika and lost. he was too wild . brook could of made the fight easier if he moved his feet..

[El Angel]

Porter gonna swarm him and stomp his UK hyped bum ass

[dan_cov]

Dan you called it!

I didn't believe it at first, but as you can see from my posts today I favoured Brook as they went in

Elated that Brook won! Porter all about excuses now.

I noticed you slowly and cautiously coming over to the dark side

So happy for him, was amazing watching what it meant to him and his family at the end there.

Brook is for real!
I hope to not hear people question his stamina, heart and chin again.
He is legit.

Wasn't impressed by Porter flailing away tbh, he is just a spoiler with an a hideous style

[bojangles1987]

Brook was impressive. I had a feeling he'd put it together tonight. Glad he whooped on the cheat.

[samouraï]

I noticed you slowly and cautiously coming over to the dark side

So happy for him, was amazing watching what it meant to him and his family at the end there.

Brook is for real!
I hope to not hear people question his stamina, heart and chin again.
He is legit.

Wasn't impressed by Porter flailing away tbh, he is just a spoiler with an a hideous style

Stamina/chin were huge questions for me, and damn he answered them just fine. I'll eat my crow on this one. Brook really made a fan.

Also, particularly good news on the stamina front given how physically demanding a fight with Porter is.

Porter though, damn. I knew he was crude and wild before, but what the fúck? He's just trying to win on pure energy and aggressiveness. He's sloppy as can be.

[LacedUp]

I noticed you slowly and cautiously coming over to the dark side

So happy for him, was amazing watching what it meant to him and his family at the end there.

Brook is for real!
I hope to not hear people question his stamina, heart and chin again.
He is legit.

Wasn't impressed by Porter flailing away tbh, he is just a spoiler with an a hideous style

I did. I don't know, I got the feeling Porter was looking past Brook and after seeing them at the weigh in I could see how much bigger Kell was, I thought it was spelling trouble for Porter.

Also, Porter didn't seem to hurt brook at all. Porter was hurt several times and his face was a mess. Honestly, don't know what Jim Watt has been smoking - but he needs to be replaced.