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  • jas
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    #191
    Originally posted by New England
    why?

    he looked good against paulie, but he didn't look that good. it's also paulie, who never had power to begin with, and will probably never fight again.

    it is a p4p list. i don't think you guys understand just how subjective it is to rank 10 fighter based on an abstraction [that size does not matter.] the first few fighters can be easy enough, but the tenth? that gets awfully muddled.

    i rank fighters based on ability and resume when i rank p4p, with a strong emphasis on ability. i rank fighters on resume and ability when i rank them historically, with the strong emphasis on resume.


    for the record, i'd probably have manny as my fifth ranked fighter, after wladimir.


    the only cut and dry spots on my p4p list are for the planet's two best fighters, rigondeaux and ward. they're a step above the rest.
    Mayweather only loses to porter at welter?

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      #192
      Originally posted by jas
      Mayweather only loses to porter at welter?


      they could fight at HW if they wanted to.

      37 year old legs and floyd mayweather's style don't mix.



      i wish i had a better feed of the maidana fight to post for you. you guys aren't seeing things clearly. floyd mayweather is not the boxer he used to be. i can't say that enough times.

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        #193
        Originally posted by New England
        they could fight at HW if they wanted to.

        37 year old legs and floyd mayweather's style don't mix.



        i wish i had a better feed of the maidana fight to post for you. you guys aren't seeing things clearly. floyd mayweather is not the boxer he used to be. i can't say that enough times.
        So how the flunk is he number 3 on your p4 p list if he loses to more guys at welter than porter does

        Porter should be above him

        And that would make you the only guy to have porter on their p4p list in the world :

        H2h are indication of ability

        And when factoring in resume why the flunk isn't Hopkins on your list

        Answer: your list is flawed or your predictions on the fights are

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          #194
          Originally posted by jas
          So how the flunk is he number 3 on your p4 p list if he loses to more guys at welter than porter does

          Porter should be above him

          And that would make you the only guy to have porter on their p4p list in the world :

          H2h are indication of ability

          And when factoring in resume why the flunk isn't Hopkins on your list

          Answer: your list is flawed or your predictions on the fights are

          a p4p list is subjective. it doens't have a set of rules that must be followed, given that inherent subjectivity.


          i had a feeling that this is where you were going with this . you don't get to make my p4p list for me. sorry, bro.

          i already gave you my top five. porter isn't in my top 10, though if he beats the f#ck out of a couple other WW i'll probably put him there.


          i guage resume and ability, with the emphasis on ability. that doesn't mean i ignore the resume. i put the most emphasis on recent resume and recent ability in a p4p list. what we do is rank a fighter p4p in the context of time. porter's fight with malignaggi sin't all that i go on to guage his ability, either. he's showed vulnerabilities in the past.


          make you own, and tell me your criteria.

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            #195
            additionally, i still think mayweather beats thurman, because he's more of a boxer. maybe thurman hits him with something big, and floyd can't adjust, but i tend to doubt it.

            also, i think maywetaher beats pacquiao, still, and relatively easily. he'd beat pacquiao easier than he beat maidana. bad, bad style.


            shawn porter is not the only measurement by which i create a p4p list.

            porter loses to more WW than floyd, given what i've told you.

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              #196
              and finally, on hopkins, he belongs nowhere near the top 5 p4p. he wouldn't make my top 10, either.

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                #197
                You can see mine in my sig

                If you have sigs turned off

                Here you go:

                It's based on how good each fighter is right now, how would they fare against their competition
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                My P4P List:

                1. Rigondeaux
                2. Pacquaio
                3. Hopkins
                4. GGG
                5. Mayweather
                6. Bradley
                7. Kovalev
                8. Klitschko
                9. Thurman
                10. Lomachenko

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by jas
                  You can see mine in my sig

                  If you have sigs turned off

                  Here you go:

                  __________________
                  My P4P List:

                  1. Rigondeaux
                  2. Pacquaio
                  3. Hopkins
                  4. GGG
                  5. Mayweather
                  6. Bradley
                  7. Kovalev
                  8. Klitschko
                  9. Thurman
                  10. Lomachenko

                  now that is a bad list

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by jas
                    You can see mine in my sig

                    If you have sigs turned off

                    Here you go:

                    It's based on how good each fighter is right now, how would they fare against their competition
                    __________________
                    My P4P List:

                    1. Rigondeaux
                    2. Pacquaio
                    3. Hopkins
                    4. GGG
                    5. Mayweather
                    6. Bradley
                    7. Kovalev
                    8. Klitschko
                    9. Thurman
                    10. Lomachenko

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                    • jas
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by New England
                      now that is a bad list
                      Originally posted by Bodies in fligh
                      Who wins the most rounds off rigo?

                      Lomachenko does .

                      Hopkins goes without saying. Exceptional. At his age

                      And Thurman is one if the most ducked fighters

                      I know my boxing

                      I schooled NE and bodies in fligh with pure ease.

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