Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

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  • Elroy1
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    #6171
    Originally posted by denium
    You have to remember that the mainstream media and Klittards like Weltz are completely biased against Tyson Fury. They're desperate to see him lose. Any boxing fan with two eyes would struggle to give Wladimir more than 2 rounds.
    I am not biased against Tyson Fury and I think Wladimir should have been awarded atleast 3 or 4 rounds plus a few other rounds were splitting hairs.

    I agree Fury won and won clearly enough that it would have been a somewhat robbery if he lost the decision.

    The problem for me is that Fury himself did not look like the thrashing machine doing it like he is being promoted.

    However the same way you can say Fury MADE Wlad look bad (which I heavily dispute could possibly make him be THAT bad), you can also say that Wladimir made Fury look bad.

    Now..

    Without being selfish, you singled out Weltz.. Weltz has demonstratably been very kindly to Fury even PRIOR to the fight, as has Freedom for that matter, the evidence has been in the post history.

    I feel you atleast can't label these guys as being 1-eyed Wlad and anti-Fury biased. Each gave Fury his dues and occasionally accepted his chances to upset.

    All I am saying Denium is that it is an objective discussion for myself and presumably these other posters too mentioned and none of us have anything against Fury.

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    • sunny31
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      #6172
      Originally posted by Elroy1
      WHY the Sam hell do the two have to be mutually exclusive in your head??

      OF COURSE he was poor!

      But OF COURSE it's a great achievement DESPITE SO!

      We are talking about Wladimir bloody Klitschko here...

      The problem with you here is that you never accepted the PRIOR truth.. That he went 22 fights/11 years as champ undefeated and virtually invincible in the heftiest AND highest quality era of HW boxing there has ever been.

      And then along came Fury who upset him.

      Tyson Fury has just upset the most evidence-based wise invincible champion in boxing history.

      Even if he IS shot, to be the one to topple the mountain writes him in the history books forever!

      But the fact remains that it was a poor Wlad and there's good chance he will win a rematch, JUST SAYING!

      There is no disrespect intended toward Fury.

      THIS time around, I declare there is about as much chance of Fury winning! Which is a FAR cry from beforehand when I figured Fury couldn't win and probably not even survive.

      I don't think anybody counted on Wlad being THAT bad.
      Haha you are a piece of work. I think you could be the worst poster on NSB, I might start a poll.

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        #6173
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        You think one Klitschko fan proves something? A post made today and not before the fight?

        yes that guy was one of them.

        Elroy, Weltschmerz, Freedom, you and many others have taken away from Fury's victory one way or the other.

        These are funnily enough the same guys who said Klitschko would win with ease - Although Freedom did say otherwise.

        The same bunch of guys who said "if by some miracle Fury wins, I'll bow down and call him the greatest" now pull the old Ali line.

        "I lied!!"
        What???

        I absolutely did not say Wlad was prime! Lay Down the crackpipe son.

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          #6174
          Originally posted by Elroy1
          WHY the Sam hell do the two have to be mutually exclusive in your head??

          OF COURSE he was poor!

          But OF COURSE it's a great achievement DESPITE SO!

          We are talking about Wladimir bloody Klitschko here...

          The problem with you here is that you never accepted the PRIOR truth.. That he went 22 fights/11 years as champ undefeated and virtually invincible in the heftiest AND highest quality era of HW boxing there has ever been.

          And then along came Fury who upset him.

          Tyson Fury has just upset the most evidence-based wise invincible champion in boxing history.

          Even if he IS shot, to be the one to topple the mountain writes him in the history books forever!

          But the fact remains that it was a poor Wlad and there's good chance he will win a rematch, JUST SAYING!

          There is no disrespect intended toward Fury.

          THIS time around, I declare there is about as much chance of Fury winning! Which is a FAR cry from beforehand when I figured Fury couldn't win and probably not even survive.

          I don't think anybody counted on Wlad being THAT bad.
          Wauw. I actually agree here Elroy.

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          • yoz
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            #6175
            Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
            Rd 1
            Klitschko 10 Fury 10
            Rd 2
            Klitschko 9 Fury 10
            Rd 3
            Klitschko 10 Fury 9
            Rd 4
            Klitschko 9 Fury 10
            Rd 5
            Klitschko 9 Fury 10
            Rd 6
            Klitschko 9 Fury 10
            Rd 7
            Klitschko 9 Fury 10
            Rd 8
            Klitschko 10 Fury 9
            Rd 9
            Klitschko 10 Fury 9
            Rd 10
            Klitschko 9 Fury 10
            Rd 11
            Klitschko 10 Fury 9
            Rd 12
            Klitschko 10 Fury 9

            Final: Klitschko 114 Fury 115

            In the 11th, Tony Weeks took one point away from Fury for his repeated rabbit punching, but one could argue Vlad should have been punished for headbutting in the same round. So that one was evened out in my opinion.

            All in all a close fight. Rematch needed.

            Note: I'm ok with the two official 115-112 scores, not the 116-111 score.
            Most of the rounds were close, but, IMO, your card is too tight. I had Fury up 2 or 3, I think. I'll re-watch the fight again soon and post.

            Looking forward to the rematch, regardless!

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              #6176
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              The fight was 13 rounds?
              yea they had an extra one in the underground ....sudden death...

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              • LacedUp
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                #6177
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                What???

                I absolutely did not say Wlad was prime! Lay Down the crackpipe son.
                Look in the post where I said we were discussing it and you said Wlad wasn't prime?

                I literally just said you were one of the posters saying Wlad wasn't in his prime.

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                  #6178
                  Originally posted by denium
                  You have to remember that the mainstream media and Klittards like Weltz are completely biased against Tyson Fury. They're desperate to see him lose. Any boxing fan with two eyes would struggle to give Wladimir more than 2 rounds.
                  Thats what you WISH to think , and are the poster boy for fanboyism,which blinds one judgements !
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-09-2015, 10:49 AM.

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                    #6179
                    Originally posted by Virgil Caine
                    He did win almost every round.

                    That is a proper quote.

                    Attributing to me that Klitschko only won one round is a misquote.

                    Fanboys are what make this sport so annoying to follow.
                    Oh so did he win like 2 rnds? Maybe 3?You realize you give him 4 its not every rnd ,right?

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                      #6180
                      Originally posted by Elroy1
                      There is no point in arguing this with LAced Up. He will blatantly refuse to accept a respectable scorecard in favour of promoting a Wladimir thrashing.

                      He talks of Fury doing to Wlad what Wlad did to most of his opponents, totally shut them out.

                      Obviously this wasn't the case at all.

                      It seems it is not good enough that Fury won, but the insults have to rain down to make it worthwhile.
                      All he does is twist things ,ignores blatant common sense or lies altogether .

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