Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

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  • Elroy1
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    #1881
    Originally posted by KnockoutNed
    Coming from a moron whose posted such gems as Leapie being better than Joe Frazier, this has to be taken as a compliment.
    Leapai IS better than Frazier under ANY circumstances.

    I remember posting highlights of both side by side, not a single woman or child could fail to tell which was better!!!

    You've just exposed yourself as a complete fool!

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      #1882
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      That's true.

      And they have proved they weren't that good.

      None of them have beaten a Dereck Chisora level opponent as easy or impressively as Fury did.
      are you talking about the first fight they had? Just going off memory, I recall that being a highly entertaining close fight. Sure fury smashed him in the second affair but that was after he'd been bashed in by a few others.

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        #1883
        Originally posted by Elroy1
        Leapai IS better than Frazier under ANY circumstances.
        lmfao.....

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          #1884
          Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
          Wow, I'm about to make this my signature, this was quite possibly the most ******ed thing a boxing fan has ever said
          You really don't have a clue about boxing do you?

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            #1885
            Originally posted by El-blanco
            are you talking about the first fight they had? Just going off memory, I recall that being a highly entertaining close fight. Sure fury smashed him in the second affair but that was after he'd been bashed in by a few others.
            Obviously i'm talking about the time when both were at their best.

            Bashed in a few others? Chisora was on the best run of his career leading up to the Fury fight.

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              #1886
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Obviously i'm talking about the time when both were at their best.

              Bashed in a few others? Chisora was on the best run of his career leading up to the Fury fight.
              On paper yes, but look at Chisora's schedule in the first part of his career rise, and the second...

              He fought Fury, Helenius, Vitali and Haye pretty much consecutively. Win or lose, that is FAR more difficult than beating up guys like Pala and Gerber (who had already lost to Sprott in 2012 ffs), labouring against Avila who AJ destroyed with ease, and beating Johnson which is essentially a guaranteed win for anyone remotely decent these days.

              I am convinced Chisora had lost a good deal of himself after that difficult run previously and definitely culminating with the Haye KO. Take away what is on paper, I don't buy into the fact that Chisora was in the form of his career. He just had a good, decently managed route to rack up some wins and at least have that as some sort of leverage for another big fight.

              I even remember the commentators talking about Chisora getting the Ws but looking worse than before, for example getting hurt by shots that wouldn't have bothered him before.

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                #1887
                Originally posted by Elroy1


                If Wlad was ALLOWED to line up a list of opponents as easy as Fury's he would have knocked nearly every single one of them out.

                And there have been some more whoppers going around here also.
                Couldn't agree more.

                Originally posted by TOE-TO-TOE
                Either an 8th round knockout, or points win...how strange!
                Why ?

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                  #1888
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  That's true.

                  And they have proved they weren't that good.

                  None of them have beaten a Dereck Chisora level opponent as easy or impressively as Fury did.
                  Chisora level opponent? Chisora is limited, to say the least...

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                    #1889
                    Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
                    Chisora level opponent? Chisora is limited, to say the least...
                    Not denying that he is.

                    But he's competed at a far higher level than the likes of Perez and Ustinov.

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                      #1890
                      Originally posted by PainfromUkraine
                      On paper yes, but look at Chisora's schedule in the first part of his career rise, and the second...

                      He fought Fury, Helenius, Vitali and Haye pretty much consecutively. Win or lose, that is FAR more difficult than beating up guys like Pala and Gerber (who had already lost to Sprott in 2012 ffs), labouring against Avila who AJ destroyed with ease, and beating Johnson which is essentially a guaranteed win for anyone remotely decent these days.

                      I am convinced Chisora had lost a good deal of himself after that difficult run previously and definitely culminating with the Haye KO. Take away what is on paper, I don't buy into the fact that Chisora was in the form of his career. He just had a good, decently managed route to rack up some wins and at least have that as some sort of leverage for another big fight.

                      I even remember the commentators talking about Chisora getting the Ws but looking worse than before, for example getting hurt by shots that wouldn't have bothered him before.
                      Fact of the matter is that Chisora never racked up 5-6 consecutive wins against European / Fringe world level (Malik Scott) opposition other than before Fury beat him. It was billed as a 50/50 fight, Fury went in there not having trained for 3 weeks, overweight and still beat the dogshyte out of him better than Vitali and Haye did.

                      But say Chisora was best when he fought Helenius. I've never seen him look better than that for instance. Who had just beaten him? Tyson Fury.

                      Chisora was considered a top 10 contender who had fought pretty much the who's who of the division. He had earned his ranked so to speak. Guys like Perez and Usitnov and 40 year old TT who Pulev looked awful against. I mean, it's not better than Dereck Chisora for sure.

                      Once again, not bugging anyone up - But those guys didn't even look good against the guys they were fighting. Fury does numbers on decent people.

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