Comments Thread For: Espinoza Explains Showtime's Position on PPV Numbers

[Fetta]

Good thing the many NSB accountants have fight purses to argue over.

Im glad they arent releasing anymore. I never cared how many of you bought or didnt buy the fight. As long as i got to see it i could less if i was the only one

[Resilient]

Good thing the many NSB accountants have fight purses to argue over.

Im glad they arent releasing anymore. I never cared how many of you bought or didnt buy the fight. As long as i got to see it i could less if i was the only one

GTFOH!! Weren't you one of the chief accountants going on about purses/ppv sales and what not?!

[Fetta]

GTFOH!! Weren't you one of the chief accountants going on about purses/ppv sales and what not?!

Was I? I dont recall that.

Ok went and looked and yup you thinking of someone else.

[King_]

Also inb4 people who were ALL about numbers and ratings before not caring anymore because Espinoza says don't care

[shoog]

Lame fights is one thing but now im genuinely disliking these guys at Showtime ..haymon Espinoza im cancelling my subscription . I was happy with showtime last year but its taking a nosedive into craps..im tired of mayweather act and amassed like damn Garcia and quillin holdingnpaper belts

[mercenario]

Espinoza could end all speculation with transparency. Do you think the people behind Cotton vs Martinez were happy when they told us they did 350k?

[Fetta]

Espinoza could end all speculation with transparency. Do you think the people behind Cotton vs Martinez were happy when they told us they did 350k?

No but this is where he is right. That was a great matchup that is now viewed as a disappointment because of PPV numbers.

[Bronx2245]

Espinoza may get away from telling the public, but I don't think he can get away with not telling the fighters. Fighters use those numbers to gain leverage in negotiations. Unless he can put a clause in the fighter's contract, not to speak publicly about PPV numbers, the info will get out...especially by Floyd.

[al-Xander]

This is just a tacit admission that PPV numbers are all lies. They're overly exaggerated. How can you even verify them? Espinoza probably discovered that the numbers don't even go as high as 700k or less.

We all know that Schaefer lies. Arum lies. Schaefer inflates numbers to make himself look good, Arum declares low numbers to cheat the IRS or his fighters. Let's face it, Schaefer is an amateur compared to Arum. Otherwise, he would still be running/ruining GBP, which is in a financial mess when he left.

... A friend of mine was in the JMM vs Pac 3 and told me how the crowd was packed like sardines. Weeks later, Arum, as usual, declares a number lower than his predictions. If that was Schaefer, he would have announced it sold 2 million.

[The Big Dunn]

This is just a tacit admission that PPV numbers are all lies. They're overly exaggerated. How can you even verify them? Espinoza probably discovered that the numbers don't even go as high as 700k or less.

We all know that Schaefer lies. Arum lies. Schaefer inflates numbers to make himself look good, Arum declares low numbers to cheat the IRS or his fighters. Let's face it, Schaefer is an amateur compared to Arum. Otherwise, he would still be running/ruining GBP, which is in a financial mess when he left.

... A friend of mine was in the JMM vs Pac 3 and told me how the crowd was packed like sardines. Weeks later, Arum, as usual, declares a number lower than his predictions. If that was Schaefer, he would have announced it sold 2 million.

what does the arena crowd have to do with ppv sales? besides, you stole the last paragraph from Cgarcia.