Comments Thread For: Espinoza Explains Showtime's Position on PPV Numbers

[bopbopbbe]

No but this is where he is right. That was a great matchup that is now viewed as a disappointment because of PPV numbers.

It was a disappointment because one of the fighters was a ****ing cripple and shouldn't of been fighting that night. I'm glad that number did **** numbers cause it was an absolute farce and terrible representation of boxing.

[al-Xander]

what does the arena crowd have to do with ppv sales? besides, you stole the last paragraph from Cgarcia.

How else can you gauge these numbers other than stadium attendances? It's not an accurate one, but it could indicate success or failure. Point is, Espinoza can declare Maidana vs Mayweather did 1.5 million, and you clowns would believe it. But he's choosing not to. Guess why?

[JudasTrese]

Last time I check professional boxing is called prize fighting. Of course the success of it will always be linked to the PPV numbers unless it's not a PPV card.

Floyd-Maidana 1 was a box office flop... do math.

[bojangles1987]

Loooooooool.

This is very, very, very funny.

[Pocket Dogs!]

In other words, the numbers were not what they were expecting.

I blame Floyd of all this PPV buys = **** measuring contest. When Oscar was the PPV king of boxing, no one was talking about PPV buys it was only trying to make the best fights possible. When Floyd left and Manny was the #1 P4P no one was talking about PPV buys. When Floyd came back and started fighting again, he couldn't shut up about PPV buys and how he had the record number of PPV buys.

[ChampBox@PR]

oh, so you don't want to release numbers anymore?
OKay....that's telling. I guess every fight from here on out will do 2.4 million

Basically what he's saying, is our numbers are down and we don't want to share them with you because it's embarrassing.

This eight here. My money says all the PPV numbers given by Espinoza since Floyd joined SHOWTIME are a blatant lie!!

PPV numbers are flunking all over the industry.

[big_james10]

Basically what he's saying, is our numbers are down and we don't want to share them with you because it's embarrassing.

I find it odd that people like you have never complained about Bob Arum not allowing a network to release numbers on a Pacquaio PPV fight for the last four years, but you want to criticize Showtime for not releasing Mayweather's numbers so that you can have something to b***h about. Get over it, $#%^&*! Life does not revolve around Mayweather's PPV numbers.

[big_james10]

In other words, the numbers were not what they were expecting.

I blame Floyd of all this PPV buys = **** measuring contest. When Oscar was the PPV king of boxing, no one was talking about PPV buys it was only trying to make the best fights possible. When Floyd left and Manny was the #1 P4P no one was talking about PPV buys. When Floyd came back and started fighting again, he couldn't shut up about PPV buys and how he had the record number of PPV buys.

Freddie Roach was the one who first mentioned that the Mayweather/Marquez fight would bomb on PPV. When the fight sold 1 million PPVs compared to 400,000 for the second Pacquaio/Marquez fight, Roach had nothing to say and all of a sudden, Arum stopped releasing Pac's numbers and haters like you started this ridiculous claim that Floyd was obsessed with PPV numbers. Haters like you should just STFU because every time you open your mouth, you prove how little you know.

[big_james10]

I don't care about PPV numbers. I get why some do, and why they became a big part of debates regarding how the revenue from a possible Floyd-Pac should be divided. But now that fight is a never was, I don't see it as important whether a particular fight does over a certain amount. Floyd, Pac, Cotto and Canelo are going to have all their fights on PPV until they next lose, and probably even after that.

Having said that, this move seems childish at best. Refusing to disclose PPV numbers because people talk about them too much? Come on now. They are still going to be talked about, if anything this will just make people more curious to find out and it's not as if they can keep them a secret from every journalist with a twitter account.

Bob Arum hasn't allowed a network to release the PPV numbers on a Pacquaio fight since Pac fought Margarito, and none of the Pac worshippers have complained about that. Espinoza is siimply taking a page from Arum's playbook.

[Tyler_Durden]

Stephen, thank your boy Floyd for this obsession with ppv #'s. Dont blame the fans.

Yup I agree, he's always bringing that **** up so of course people will start looking into it.

I'm tired of ppv talk and all the bull**** that doesn't even matter to the people watching the fights so I could care less weather they release the ****** numbers on fights or not.