Comments Thread For: Espinoza Explains Showtime's Position on PPV Numbers

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  • bopbopbbe
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    #51
    Lol at anybody that believes Espinoza. CBS, showtimes parent company, is a public company. It would look very bad for them if a division of cbs is just hemoraghing money like the numbers most ppl know about from floyd.

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    • MC Hammer
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      #52
      Originally posted by AddiX
      Basically what he's saying, is our numbers are down and we don't want to share them with you because it's embarrassing.
      Down from what? From what I remember Showtime hasn't put on a PPV before the Mayweather deal since Pac/Mosley. That did somewhere near 1.2 so I don't think they're completely down

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      • ThePrince
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        #53
        Looks like Showtime's 'loss leading' strategy is working so well, they're not even releasing PPV numbers anymore.

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        • tangalog2200
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          #54
          Originally posted by Fetta
          No but this is where he is right. That was a great matchup that is now viewed as a disappointment because of PPV numbers.
          that is where you went wrong....

          regardless of the ppv numbers...

          a good fight is a good fight..

          an exciting fight is an exciting fight..

          a boring fight is a boring fight...

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          • tangalog2200
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            #55
            Originally posted by Rust Cohle
            In other words, the numbers were not what they were expecting.

            I blame Floyd of all this PPV buys = **** measuring contest. When Oscar was the PPV king of boxing, no one was talking about PPV buys it was only trying to make the best fights possible. When Floyd left and Manny was the #1 P4P no one was talking about PPV buys. When Floyd came back and started fighting again, he couldn't shut up about PPV buys and how he had the record number of PPV buys.
            because floyd thinks people only want to see his fights...

            as if there were no one watching the under cards...

            floyd's ppv numbers are good under card driven

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #56
              "We use to release numbers, but since I signed Floyd to a huge guarantee and the numbers don't justify it, we will no longer release numbers, so I don't look like an idiot for giving 32 million plus for every fight."

              That's what he is trying to say..

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              • sdcluser
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                #57
                There are only 3 more fights and one being the Maidana rematch which would minimize any loss.

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                • BennyBlanco
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by big_james10
                  I find it odd that people like you have never complained about Bob Arum not allowing a network to release numbers on a Pacquaio PPV fight for the last four years, but you want to criticize Showtime for not releasing Mayweather's numbers so that you can have something to b***h about. Get over it, $#%^&*! Life does not revolve around Mayweather's PPV numbers.
                  THIS^^^^^^^^^^

                  Why are people so concerned with counting other people's money? I don't give if Floyd is making $7 or $70 million....I don't care if Showtime is losing money or making money....I especially don't care how many other people bought a PPV. I literally DGAF.

                  All I care about is seeing good fights.

                  This is why the sport of boxing is lagging...people like to talk about everything but the fights themselves.

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                  • Xi_
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                    #59
                    lol, where were all of you pacf@gs at when arum would refuse to release pacquiao's official ppv numbers?

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                    • Fetta
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by tangalog2200
                      that is where you went wrong....

                      regardless of the ppv numbers...

                      a good fight is a good fight..

                      an exciting fight is an exciting fight..

                      a boring fight is a boring fight...
                      So you didnt understand what i wrote huh. Seemed pretty simple to grasp

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