Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Mayweather-Maidana Profitable, Part 2 Worthy

[Suavecito80]

But..but.but..I thought all of the Boxingscene accountants had come up with all these formulas and theories on why showtime is about to go out of business because of the contract with Mayweather. Or am I not remembering correctly? Or is Espinoza lying? I am sure these clowns will come up with something.

[Weebler I]

BALCO labs destroyed a lot of legacies. Barry Bonds, Marion Jones & her ex-husband, and Shane Mosely. Will they remember the home runs, the gold medals, the wins over De La Hoya? What will be Manny Pacquiao's legacy? The 8 division championships? The wars with Juan Manuel Marquez? Or the blood testing issue and Freddie Roach's admission that Alex Ariza was "shady?" In the end, Floyd Mayweather will be remembered not for his "in the ring" physical prowess (even though 46-0 is ridiculous), but his "outside the ring" business savvy. He developed the business model to turn fighters from employees to employers. He made his master a slave as he went from slave to master. You can hate his persona all day and night, but he is still the greatest boxer of our time.

50 Cent says he spends all his money like a child buying sweets so he's forced to fight again.

Quite the businessman indeed.

He's not the best businessman at all, that's Haymon. He's not the best fighter either, that's FOTD Pacquiao. Floyd's just a fcukwit.

[Bronx2245]

50 Cent says he spends all his money like a child buying sweets so he's forced to fight again.

Quite the businessman indeed.

He's not the best businessman at all, that's Haymon. He's not the best fighter either, that's FOTD Pacquiao. Floyd's just a fcukwit.

He's not the best businessman? You reference 50 Cents, I'll reference The New York Times:

That pie is only part of the total revenue, the pay-per-view TV part. To illustrate the other revenue streams, Schaefer pulled a piece of paper from his pocket, a spreadsheet written in 6-point typeface. Drawn out, Schaefer said it would take up two chalkboards, but on the sheet in his pocket, it was boiled down to a formula for how much Mayweather would earn, based on how many people bought the fight and what the other revenue streams brought in.

Those streams include foreign sales for a fight broadcast in 168 territories; closed-circuit revenues (in 2,000 or so bars and restaurants nationwide, in theaters and in rooms at Las Vegas casinos); site revenue (ticket sales, merchandise); and sponsorships. Most boxers would see little, if any, of that money, whereas, Schaefer said: “All revenues here are Mayweather revenues. He gets part of everything.”

Roger Federer does not make money off the sales of strawberries and cream at Wimbledon, nor does Derek Jeter’s contract include the Yankees’ TV contract in Asia. Mayweather has devised an altogether different model for marquee athletes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sp...anted=all&_r=0

[Beater_of_ass]

This is one of Manny Pacquiao's biggest fans.

That doesn't make him wrong.

[Beater_of_ass]

If Showtime was taking a financial bath like some of you guys claim then they would have gone with Khan instead. Waiting until after Ramadan if they had to.

There's no way they go with Chino a second time if he's losing them money.

They chose Maidana because people were ****ting all over the Khan fight, wtf are you even talking about.

BALCO labs destroyed a lot of legacies. Barry Bonds, Marion Jones & her ex-husband, and Shane Mosely. Will they remember the home runs, the gold medals, the wins over De La Hoya? What will be Manny Pacquiao's legacy? The 8 division championships? The wars with Juan Manuel Marquez? Or the blood testing issue and Freddie Roach's admission that Alex Ariza was "shady?" In the end, Floyd Mayweather will be remembered not for his "in the ring" physical prowess (even though 46-0 is ridiculous), but his "outside the ring" business savvy. He developed the business model to turn fighters from employees to employers. He made his master a slave as he went from slave to master. You can hate his persona all day and night, but he is still the greatest boxer of our time.

Has many ever failed a drug test, no. No matter how much you try to say he did, he didn't. Just like Mayweather never fought Margarito or Manny, you can say he would have won, but he didn't.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

That doesn't really prove anything. It could simply mean that Maidana rematch would be the least unprofitable out of all the available options while being stuck with the Mayweather contract. Not saying there was no profit for sure, but the other options would do worse than Maidana I.

This is exactly why it was made. Who out there is gonna sell as much or more than Maidana?

No one.

Everyone knows if they're not doing 1.2M or more buys, they ain't making no profit.

[Weebler I]

He's not the best businessman? You reference 50 Cents, I'll reference The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sp...anted=all&_r=0

and who negotiates that deal? Al Haymon.

Floyd isn't a businessman, he's a 37 year old spendthrift who throws money around nightclubs and has to fight to make it back.

Espinoza has been nonstop telling us in every interview the fight was profitable, makes me believe him even less. If it's so profitable why is he so worried about it?

I doubt it was profitable, but he's banking on the first fight selling the rematch.

[tomhawq]

Please give me references. I would like to read that article/s.

look at this idiot. he claims pacman is using peds without evidence and now he wants evidence for his idol. forget it doe. pacman is juicing. no evidence needed. crackweather sr says so. roidweather is a juicer. a reputable writer says so. it's become general knowledge. it has spread like wildfire. use google and stop asking for references. deal with it.

you clowns are nothing but bullies.

[gbonafide]

BALCO labs destroyed a lot of legacies. Barry Bonds, Marion Jones & her ex-husband, and Shane Mosely. Will they remember the home runs, the gold medals, the wins over De La Hoya? What will be Manny Pacquiao's legacy? The 8 division championships? The wars with Juan Manuel Marquez? Or the blood testing issue and Freddie Roach's admission that Alex Ariza was "shady?" In the end, Floyd Mayweather will be remembered not for his "in the ring" physical prowess (even though 46-0 is ridiculous), but his "outside the ring" business savvy. He developed the business model to turn fighters from employees to employers. He made his master a slave as he went from slave to master. You can hate his persona all day and night, but he is still the greatest boxer of our time.

I agree that Floyd will be remembered more for his financial gains & now he marketed himself more than for his ring accomplishments but not sure what you're try to say about BALCO & Manny Pacquiao. Has he ever been proven as a cheat or am I missing something. Your Roach "quote" carries as much weight as Thomas Hauser quoting an unnamed source who said Floyd's A test failed 3 times and they never tested the B. Your logic should work both ways, no?

[King_]

Cool. Mayweather-Maidana made a profit.


Can Showtime fire this shameful ducker now?