Video Breakdown: Alvarez vs Lara

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  • damit305
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    #41
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    I like and agree with much of his analysis, but picking a winner in boxing matches is a bad proposition. No matter how good you are, you're going to be wrong a large percentage of the time. That goes for sports betting in general, actually. Fights like these are anyone's guess, worthy of a token bet at best.

    Very tough,I agree. Canelo is going have to apply extremely smart pressure and cut off effectively, I think Cua alluded to this earlier. That being said, this will play into Lara's hands

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    • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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      #42
      Originally posted by damit305
      Nice breakdown by Fischer. Although his prediction was delivered with great uncertainty lol. I think he showed more confidence when he picked Canelo over Floyd.
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
      He picked Canelo over Floyd? That's a good thing. lol
      Originally posted by damit305
      Yea he did, lol. Dougie is sticking with his guns here.
      He had admitted to be a Canelo fanboy. In the master thread there's a breakdown similar to this one. The interview was done by Elie instead. That's where he admitted that he was a Canelo fanboy. That's probably there reason why he picked Canelo.

      You can't say 50/50 then say you slightly favor another guy. If that's the case then say 55/45 or or 52/48 or something.

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        #43
        Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
        He had admitted to be a Canelo fanboy. In the master thread there's a breakdown similar to this one. The interview was done by Elie instead. That's where he admitted that he was a Canelo fanboy. That's probably there reason why he picked Canelo.

        You can't say 50/50 then say you slightly favor another guy. If that's the case then say 55/45 or or 52/48 or something.
        I understood what he meant. It's too close to call; but if he had to pick a winner, it would be Canelo. I feel the same way, but in the other direction. Doesn't really matter. No one can be sure who's going to win here, no matter what they might believe. On paper, this looks like a very close fight, which is partly what makes it so appealing, but it might turn out to be a lopsided win for one or the other. It's happened before and it'll happen again.

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          #44
          Originally posted by damit305
          Very tough,I agree. Canelo is going have to apply extremely smart pressure and cut off effectively, I think Cua alluded to this earlier. That being said, this will play into Lara's hands
          I tend to agree. But it could also mean Canelo landing some thudding shots. At the highest levels, any slip can mean the fight. Look at what happened in Cotto-Martinez, for example. Miguel landed a hard shot in the first round and Sergio never fully recovered. He fought on valiantly, but the fight was effectively decided then and there.

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            #45
            All this talk about the adjustments Canelo needs to make. I want to see what tweaks Lara has made to his game if any. With a world class trainer like Ronnie Shields I would hope he's continuing to improve certain parts of his game as his career progresses. I wouldn't be shocked if he has some new tricks up his sleeve as well.

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            • damit305
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              #46
              Originally posted by PBP
              All this talk about the adjustments Canelo needs to make. I want to see what tweaks Lara has made to his game if any. With a world class trainer like Ronnie Shields I would hope he's continuing to improve certain parts of his game as his career progresses. I wouldn't be shocked if he has some new tricks up his sleeve as well.
              Ronnie is a great trainer. Lara imo has the tools to beat Canelo without improving any facet in his technique. Anything new is definitely a plus. Id love to see his inside game improve.

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              • CubanGuyNYC
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                #47
                Originally posted by damit305
                Ronnie is a great trainer. Lara imo has the tools to beat Canelo without improving any facet in his technique. Anything new is definitely a plus. Id love to see his inside game improve.
                That would make him a complete fighter. He'd be very tough to beat then.

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                • damit305
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                  That would make him a complete fighter. He'd be very tough to beat then.
                  Yes, I thought Lara seemed sharper vs Trout, but obviously not the type of style to test him on the inside.

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                  • northstar
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by damit305
                    Yes, I thought Lara seemed sharper vs Trout, but obviously not the type of style to test him on the inside.
                    The interesting thing with Lara, in regards to the inside, is that he smothers and defends well. He can also shorten up his punches. It's just that he seems to have difficulty transitioning from offense to defense on the inside quickly and effectively.

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                    • A-Wolf
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      Maybe. But it's kind of like I said earlier, for every point there's a counterpoint. Both these guys have strengths and weaknesses. The question then becomes: which strengths outweigh which weaknesses? That's really what they mean by "styles make fights."

                      I happen to agree that Lara's footwork will serve him well in this fight. But will Lara be able to weather hard combos from Canelo? Landy has a tendency to go into that high guard and not return fire (as mentioned in the interview). I don't like that habit, and I like it even less for this fight.
                      Lara uses distance control FAR more than he does a high guard... It's like some of you cats have filtered your entire perception of Lara through the tiny pinhole that was the Angulo fight. YES, Lara is at a bit of a loss when his opponent is applying extreme pressure and he'll shell up when he runs out of ring or mistimes his footwork.. You understand that Canelo is a guy that basically stands in one spot and works his offense, yeah?? He doesn't stalk. He doesn't collapse. He doesn't crash in. He tries to outbox everybody toe to toe. He was even ****** enough to try that crap with Mayweather. I don't expect him to be any different against Lara. Neither does Austin Trout.

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