Carl Froch has surpassed Joe Calzaghe

[IronDanHamza]

Or Hopkins....you know the one that keeps dominating dudes and setting ATG records with every fight? You know that Froch is nowhere near the level of Joe. So Froch is so great because in part of his rematch win over Kessler? Guess what? Calzaghe didn't need a rematch, he dominated Kessler and took his 0.....yeah, sloppy Joe did that.

Joe beat 2 ATG's after moving up in weight and fighting in America. One ATG is still setting records with every single fight. Froch got his ass handed to him both times he fought in America....and he refused a rematch on both occasions. Froch keeps getting help from the ref to win his high profile fights.

What's this ****?

Froch has fought in America 3 times.

Against Ward, Taylor and Johnson.

He beat Johnson clearly, knocked out Taylor and lost to Ward.

[SHB]

The calzaghe that fought Hopkins and RJJ gets stopped by froch there's no argument with that surely?

On what basis?

[IronDanHamza]

When? They never overlapped.

Check the dates. Who had Froch fought before Calzaghe fought Kessler and Hopkins?

It's a shame, but Froch needs to take a lot of the blame for that. He didn't step up to world class until his 30s. Calzaghe had bigger fish to fry. The only reason Froch fought Groves is because he didn't.

Erm, yes they did.

Froch was mandatory for Calzaghe's title and Froch was trying very hard to get that fight and Calzaghe turned it down.

[mathed]

The calzaghe that fought Hopkins and RJJ gets stopped by froch there's no argument with that surely?

That Calzaghe beats the brakes off of Froch are you kidding me?

[RichCCFC]

carl froch is THE greatest UK fighter ever.

he is a true living legend.

don't insult our country you religious cook.

[Robbie Barrett]

When? They never overlapped.

Check the dates. Who had Froch fought before Calzaghe fought Kessler and Hopkins?

It's a shame, but Froch needs to take a lot of the blame for that. He didn't step up to world class until his 30s. Calzaghe had bigger fish to fry. The only reason Froch fought Groves is because he didn't.

Who had Groves fought before Froch? Froch was calling Calzaghe out for years and it would have been a big fight.

[SHB]

Erm, yes they did.

Froch was mandatory for Calzaghe's title and Froch was trying very hard to get that fight and Calzaghe turned it down.

When was Froch ever a mandatory?

If Calzaghe had turned down Hopkins to fight the then unproven Froch he'd have been even more pilloried on here than already is.

[Robbie Barrett]

That Calzaghe beats the brakes off of Froch are you kidding me?

Calzaghe got dropped by shot to **** Jones and old man Hopkins. Froch beats the **** out of slappy.

[Showtime..]

I totally agree...he is so over hyped it is sickening...the guy will get demolished if he ever moves up like Joe did, which is precisely why he won't move up .

Ward and Froch are both afraid to move up. Kovalev and Stevenson would wreck the 168 scrubs.

[Divine Hammer]

don't insult our country you religious cook.

what's with the insult because i believe strongly in my religion. that was not called for.

i never meant to bring insult to UK boxing. it's just how i feel. i apologize again.