Should Froch be no. 1 if he beats Groves?

[LacedUp]

You've only proven my point, the names you have listed that haven't already tasted defeat at the hands of Ward are all on the same level. They're all as good as Rodriguez, in some cases, they're even shitter. You expect anyone to take you seriously now you named DeGale as a legit opponent for Ward?

Find something else to be pedantic about rather than the actual point of this debate.

wtf are you talking about all on the same level?

I didn't say James Degale was a legit opponent. I said "hell even James degale would be better". Why are you trying to twist my words?

Rodriguez couldn't even make weight and literally did *** all for the whole fight. He's got a shyt resume and is not a top 10 smw at all.

I can mention 10 SMWs that are better than Rodriguez, but I didn't mention guys like Abraham, Groves etc because those fights wouldn't have been possible to make.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Thread is embarrassing....

[D-MiZe]

wtf are you talking about all on the same level?

I didn't say James Degale was a legit opponent. I said "hell even James degale would be better". Why are you trying to twist my words?

Rodriguez couldn't even make weight and literally did *** all for the whole fight. He's got a shyt resume and is not a top 10 smw at all.

I can mention 10 SMWs that are better than Rodriguez, but I didn't mention guys like Abraham, Groves etc because those fights wouldn't have been possible to make.

You're moaning about Ward not fighting opponents that legitimately deserve to do so. You said DeGale is a better option than Rodriguez, why?

We're just going around in circles, you can name 10 SMWs better but, if, coulda, woulda.

It was once, and in some respect still is, a hot division. But out of the S6 came the true king of the 168lb division. He's already beaten the clear best that the division has to offer and all that is left is contenders. It's apple and pears when you're on about contenders.

Whoever is/has been relevant at 168lb, Ward has beaten (bar Bute). That's all that needs to be said. If Groves beats Froch and then Kessler, Ward has an opponent he must face. Otherwise he can fuck about fighting contenders until a real threat shows his face.

Oh and Edwin Rodriguez > Yusuf Mack.

[BattlingNelson]

So it's fairly even still.

[New England]

lol.........

[bojangles1987]

Wow, the poll is close. Had to actually vote once I saw it.

[New England]

he fought in the end of november, and you want to remove him for a guy he pounded on based on what? inactivity? ranking boards almost universally ask a fighter to have a fight scheduled roughly within a year. he fought in f#cking november....


do you have any idea how many championship fighters have had a layoff for more than seven months? it's not even f#cking june yet


andre ward hit froch so hard it scrambled the brains of british fans


this young king is the top dog in the division. he f#cking destroyed froch and kessler. get over it.

[New England]

this is a bad look for british fans. american fans just don't do this. they don't.


this is what a child does. act like you've been there (even if carl froch hasn't.)


"'eeee was the second best fighter in the division, our carl was!"

[New England]

So it's fairly even still.

yup. not a good look for european boxing.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It is pathetic. It's the kind of victories the likes of Battling Nelson thrive on