Victor Conte : JMM is Doping and Big time.

[Divine Hammer]

But that does not mean he is a CLEAN fighter. And when a fighter DECLINES random drug testing that was offered FREE OF CHARGE, you cannot sit here and say that is NOT su****ious either.

Even though Marquez is su****ious, at least with his fight with Tim Bradley, he actually went through with random drug testing. Both Alvarado and Marquez is suspect.

that is why i said it is su****ious and he might be cheating but other than declining extra testing, he doesn't show anything else to further this su****ion.

and marquez declined USADA and VADA testing (which bradley asked of him) and which are imo the most legit testing agencies out there right now in boxing. it got to a point where bradley was threatening to walk away from the fight because of marquez's refusal to do USADA and VADA, so arum and nsac, for the the first time, had to set up their own testing with an outside agency (and who knows how credible that is).

bradley openly talked about this situation...


so this is sort of similar to the situation with provodnikov and alavarado except bradley wanted VADA for both fighters or no fight. provodnikov dropped the demand when alvarado said no.

[Lapid]

fan of JMM so I hope it is not true but I do see signs to be extremely su****ious about

That Acne looked really bad

He's on PEDs, only a fool would believe otherwise.

[radioraheem]

ruslan knows how to type in english? rus cant even spell his own name in english.

It's his official Twitter account. Not just that, but Victor Conte was also pushing for it too. It didn't work. And in the end, only Provodnikov tested with VADA for their fight. This is a fact, and VADA released a press document saying that Provodnikov successfully passed tests for that fight.

But Alvarado? He only did the NSAC regular joke testing.

[radioraheem]

that is why i said it is su****ious and he might be cheating but other than declining extra testing, he doesn't show anything else to further this su****ion.

and marquez declined USADA and VADA testing (which bradley asked of him) and which are imo the most legit testing agencies out there right now in boxing. it got to a point where bradley was threatening to walk away from the fight because of marquez's refusal to do USADA and VADA, so arum and nsac, for the the first time, had to set up their own testing with an outside agency (and who knows how credible that is).

so this is sort of similar to the situation with provodnikov and alavarado except bradley wanted VADA for both fighters or no fight. provodnikov dropped the demand when alvarado said no.

It's sort of similar, but ultimately it's very different because in the end Marquez underwent stringent random drug testing, but through NSAC. His samples were tested through a WADA accredited lab in Salt Lake City, Utah. Whereas VADA and USADA, use the UCLA lab in Los Angeles. Same thing though. They test for the same substances, there is little difference except in the way samples are taken from clients.

But Alvarado didn't do random drug testing WHATSOEVER. Not through NSAC, not through USADA, not through VADA.

[Holywarrior]

You watch that video yet you fuggin clown

"Aw nah man I'm on mah phone doe"
"Juan ain't dirty doe he had too many tacos doe"
"That video is fake doe"
"Y'all made it up doe"
"Wikipedia"

You have Evol siding with you Not a good look kiddo, soon youll be circle jerking with puga. Keep it up.

[Holywarrior]

i didnt say u were worried about floyd.. u asked why is floyd being brought up in ur earlier post so i replied. and funny how floyd openly accept the decision and paid manny what the judge ordered. usually when u're right and u have proof u dont fold that easily LOL.

Lance Armstrong sued and was guilty

[nubian]

Pac was guilty and no one cared then.

[Divine Hammer]

It's sort of similar, but ultimately it's very different because in the end Marquez underwent stringent random drug testing, but through NSAC. His samples were tested through a WADA accredited lab in Salt Lake City, Utah. Whereas VADA and USADA, use the UCLA lab in Los Angeles. Same thing though. They test for the same substances, there is little difference except in the way samples are taken from clients.

But Alvarado didn't do random drug testing WHATSOEVER. Not through NSAC, not through USADA, not through VADA.

only reason alvarado didn't do extra drug testing whatsoever is because provodnikov dropped that demand. it's that simple.

if bradley dropped the demand for VADA then it would have only been him doing VADA and marquez most likely would have done the normal piss test with nsac.

the only reason nsac and arum went to such lengths as to create this whole new random testing for nsac and bring in some other testing agency (imo doesn't have the same credibility as USADA or VADA) to do the testing is because marquez refused to do VADA and USADA and bradley was threatening to walk away. it was an attempt to save the fight.

marquez refused VADA and USADA testing just like alvarado did.

[Public_Enemy]

only reason alvarado didn't do extra drug testing whatsoever is because provodnikov dropped that demand. it's that simple.

if bradley dropped the demand for VADA then it would have only been him doing VADA and marquez most likely would have done the normal piss test with nsac.

the only reason nsac and arum went to such lengths as to create this whole new random testing for nsac and bring in some other testing agency (imo doesn't have the same credibility has USADA or VADA) to do the testing is because marquez refused to do VADA and USADA and bradley was threatening to walk away. it was an attempt to save the fight.

marquez refused VADA and USADA testing just like alvarado did.

Marquez actually wanted to do USADA testing and not VADA testing. He'll never do VADA testing because of their association with Conte.

The stringent commission testing was the compromise and they tested for everything that VADA or USADA tests for. In fact, Bradley/Pacquiao II used the stringent commission testing as well.

[BennyST]

only reason alvarado didn't do extra drug testing whatsoever is because provodnikov dropped that demand. it's that simple.

if bradley dropped the demand for VADA then it would have only been him doing VADA and marquez most likely would have done the normal piss test with nsac.

the only reason nsac and arum went to such lengths as to create this whole new random testing for nsac and bring in some other testing agency (imo doesn't have the same credibility has USADA or VADA) to do the testing is because marquez refused to do VADA and USADA and bradley was threatening to walk away. it was an attempt to save the fight.

marquez refused VADA and USADA testing just like alvarado did.

No, I believe that Arum refused to let Bradley try to force Marquez into doing all testing with two different agencies, and Marquez agreed saying it was silly and just a pointless way to try to annoy him. He said he was fine with one agency, and that was initially the deal until Bardley started making a fuss wanting two agencies. Marquez was never against testing and had agreed to it in the initial deal, but Bardley tried to change it, and that's what Marquez and Arum said no to. Still, it ended being full random testing through the NSAC or whatever their name was.

Whatever you think, Marquez underwent full, random testing as stringent as any agency today, and passed.