Joe Calzaghe: Overrated or underrated?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #71
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    84 versions of srl and Duran would get beat,,

    Calzaghe is better than winky, cotto tszyu, starling,hill, etc....

    I think he is on the Shane, oscar level, and behind the Hopkins, jones, mccallum, hearns


    Dude is a great fighter for his generation.. I don't want to really debate it because me and you will go 10 pages, and we have already discussed joe many times, I know how you rate him and you know how I rate him....
    Well they might get beat but he's not a better fighter than either of them.

    What makes Calzaghe any better than those fighters? (Didn't mention Virgil Hill) His resume isn't any better than any of them really maybe Tszyu.

    Well if you think he's on Shane Mosley's level do you think Shane Mosley is "One of the best fighters" of the last 30 years? Because obviously he isn't.

    Well again it depends what you consider "His generation".

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    • ElMeroChingon
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      #72
      Listen,

      He beat the crap out of Hopkins without clinching his fist,.


      ATG stuff right there.

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        #73
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Well they might get beat but he's not a better fighter than either of them.

        What makes Calzaghe any better than those fighters? (Didn't mention Virgil Hill) His resume isn't any better than any of them really maybe Tszyu.

        Well if you think he's on Shane Mosley's level do you think Shane Mosley is "One of the best fighters" of the last 30 years? Because obviously he isn't.

        Well again it depends what you consider "His generation".
        I think mosely is a really good fighter, much better and lightweight and early days at welter,, not much at 154 or his later run at welter...

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          #74
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Top 50 over the last 30 years is not that awesome.

          It's not "one of the best" either.

          That's if he's even in the Top 50 of the last 30 years which is debatable.
          Come on bro look at it in perspective, I can tell you know boxing. I know we havent had many true greats over the last 30 yrs in comparison to before, and the competition is alot weaker, but still, that is an incredible accomplishment in this sport. The talent and dedication it takes to even become a "paper champ" is enormous...To be one of the 50 best over the last 30 yrs is highly respectable

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            #75
            Originally posted by One more round
            Come on bro look at it in perspective, I can tell you know boxing. I know we havent had many true greats over the last 30 yrs in comparison to before, and the competition is alot weaker, but still, that is an incredible accomplishment in this sport. The talent and dedication it takes to even become a "paper champ" is enormous...To be one of the 50 best over the last 30 yrs is highly respectable
            I've never said it's not respectable or a good achievement.

            Top 50 makes you one of the best of the last 30 years? Not in my eyes.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              I think mosely is a really good fighter, much better and lightweight and early days at welter,, not much at 154 or his later run at welter...
              Right ok.

              So Shane Mosley is one of the best fighters of the last 30 years then?

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                #77
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Right ok.

                So Shane Mosley is one of the best fighters of the last 30 years then?
                He is a first ballot hall of fame lock, 3 division champ, derailed oscar and margs,,
                Yes Shane is one of the modern greats of the game...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  He is a first ballot hall of fame lock, 3 division champ, derailed oscar and margs,,
                  Yes Shane is one of the modern greats of the game...
                  Ok well if Shane Mosley is "One of the best fighters of the last 30 years" then it's hardly something to scream and shout about and the standards for "One of the best" are pretty damn low.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by UTEP
                      Broner got his inspiration from this.

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