Joe Calzaghe: Overrated or underrated?

[Tarl of Bristol]

Who actually think he would have beat a prime RJJ, BHOP, or Lights Out.

Joe Calzaghe in his prime would've beaten all those guys in their primes.

[BigAlexSand]

Joe Calzaghe in his prime would've beaten all those guys in their primes.

An old Bhop made problems for Joe, yet in his prime you think he would have defeated him... Please get some knowledge! A prime Roy would have ended the fight early if not in the middle rounds.

I could see a toney fight going close but wouldn't put it against toney to come up with something devastating in the later rounds.

[titan m]

Top 50 over the last 30 years is not that awesome.

It's not "one of the best" either.

That's if he's even in the Top 50 of the last 30 years which is debatable.

Top 50 in the last 30 years is very impressive, there are a lot of great fighters in the world. Like the other poster pointed out, you could ask any fighter in the world and they would most likely be very proud of that. I cant understand how you could admit he is debatably one of the top 50 fighters in the past 30 years and try to discredit that.

[IronDanHamza]

Top 50 in the last 30 years is very impressive, there are a lot of great fighters in the world. Like the other poster pointed out, you could ask any fighter in the world and they would most likely be very proud of that. I cant understand how you could admit he is debatably one of the top 50 fighters in the past 30 years and try to discredit that.

Because when someone say's "He's one of the best fighters of the last 30 years" I don't expect that to be amongst the Top 50.

That's if he's Top 50 which is debatable.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Because when someone say's "He's one of the best fighters of the last 30 years" I don't expect that to be amongst the Top 50.

That's if he's Top 50 which is debatable.

Name fifty fighters better than him since 84,,, joe is one of the best of his generation... You just don't like calzaghe,,, it clouds your judgement on this topic, my friend

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Who actually think he would have beat a prime RJJ, BHOP, or Lights Out.

Honestly I think James toney would struggle with calzaghe,,, toney on his best night would win, but you never know what toney will show up.. With joe's movement and angles, I think if toney is lazy, which was about 70% of the time! joe could outpoint him...

[IronDanHamza]

Name fifty fighters better than him since 84,,, joe is one of the best of his generation... You just don't like calzaghe,,, it clouds your judgement on this topic, my friend

Hmmm, no it doesn't, actually. What have I said that isn't the truth? Do tell.

What are we talking? Fighters who were still active or good in 84-present? If so, Top of my head since 84;

Hagler
Hearns
Duran
Leonard
Whitaker
Chavez
Roy Jones
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Holyfield
McCallum
Toney
Lopez
Trinidad
Oscar
Nelson
Gomez
Lewis
Barrera
Morales
Marquez

That's 22 that are definitely ahead then there's guy's who are on a similar level like Mosley, Winky Wright, Cotto, Tszyu, Castillo, Froch, Starling and many others.

And that's just the top of my head.

Hardly "One of the best" really.

[Suckmedry]

Joe Calzaghe in his prime would've beaten all those guys in their primes.

I think hes competitive with all, good fights definitely, but think back to the kd in the Hopkins fight. Thats Hopkins and Toney's money punch, especially as a counter vs a committed opponent, Joe being a southpaw opens him up even more to it. Like I said, good fights but I can see joe getting dropped really fcking hard and while he had a good chin b-hop and Toney could both finish you in their primes, two of the last truly great fighters.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Hmmm, no it doesn't, actually. What have I said that isn't the truth? Do tell.

What are we talking? Fighters who were still active or good in 84-present? If so, Top of my head since 84;

Hagler
Hearns
Duran
Leonard
Whitaker
Chavez
Roy Jones
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Holyfield
McCallum
Toney
Lopez
Trinidad
Oscar
Nelson
Gomez
Lewis
Barrera
Morales
Marquez

That's 22 that are definitely ahead then there's guy's who are on a similar level like Mosley, Winky Wright, Cotto, Tszyu, Castillo, Froch, Starling and many others.

And that's just the top of my head.

Hardly "One of the best" really.

84 versions of srl and Duran would get beat,,

Calzaghe is better than winky, cotto tszyu, starling,hill, etc....

I think he is on the Shane, oscar level, and behind the Hopkins, jones, mccallum, hearns


Dude is a great fighter for his generation.. I don't want to really debate it because me and you will go 10 pages, and we have already discussed joe many times, I know how you rate him and you know how I rate him....

[IronDanHamza]

Name fifty fighters better than him since 84,,, joe is one of the best of his generation... You just don't like calzaghe,,, it clouds your judgement on this topic, my friend

What's his generation? The last decade?

Yeah he's probably Top 10 of the last decade.

Behind Mayweather, Pacquaio, Hopkins, Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Oscar, not sure who else.

Or are we talking the last 25 years? Because if we're talking last 25 years he's definitely not Top 10.