Schaefer gives Hoya the finger

[New England]

Does Oscar have that power? I don't even know, it's always Schaefer running things.

oscar holds the majority of the shares in the company. i'm not sure how much of it he acdtually owns, but it's more than 50%.

[Strategic1]

Yes, but the result would be a New Cold War. Schaefer/Haymon start their own company or move to Mayweather Promotions and they don't put on fights with EITHER Top Rank or Golden Boy. And all the current GBP fighters they try to take with them will be busy with litigation and out of the ring for several months. People actually WANT this to happen?

The ONLY good thing that could result is Ellerbee being demoted, as Schaefer will surely take his role.

Casuals aren't that ******. I don't think they'd support Schaefer if he does this. They'd side with De La Hoya and follow him.

There isn't room for 3 big players. Boxing is a niche game. They need to compromise or it's gonna hurt all parties involved.... Especially when Floyd and PAC retire eventually.

[Kagami Taiga]

Casuals aren't that ******. I don't think they'd support Schaefer if he does this. They'd side with De La Hoya and follow him.

There isn't room for 3 big players. Boxing is a niche game. They need to compromise or it's gonna hurt all parties involved.... Especially when Floyd and PAC retire eventually.

Lol u think casuals care? It's not about the casuals. It's about the fighters. U totally misunderstand the issues. Causals are casuals. They don't go that deep into the boxing game.

[cupcrazy01]

Casuals aren't that ******. I don't think they'd support Schaefer if he does this. They'd side with De La Hoya and follow him.

There isn't room for 3 big players. Boxing is a niche game. They need to compromise or it's gonna hurt all parties involved.... Especially when Floyd and PAC retire eventually.

I agree in theory, but if Schaefer has the fighters -- the Haymon guys like, well, pretty much everyone with GBP except Canelo -- then fans will give Schaefer/Haymon money because they can still put on intriguing fights.

Look at GBP's roster and then subtract all Haymon fighters.

There will only be two big companies left -- GBP will devolve into a DiBella or Goosen-like company.

[cupcrazy01]

I agree in theory, but if Schaefer has the fighters -- the Haymon guys like, well, pretty much everyone with GBP except Canelo -- then fans will give Schaefer/Haymon money because they can still put on intriguing fights.

Look at GBP's roster and then subtract all Haymon fighters.

There will only be two big companies left -- GBP will devolve into a DiBella or Goosen-like company.

With the exception of any Canelo PPV event, that is. He's the flagship fighter and something to build around, so maybe I was a bit harsh.

If this happens, I would love to see Oscar reach out to DiBella and/or Goosen and offer them partnership and give either of them Schaefer's job. That is the only way we would have three big promotional companies. But I think we all know that is not going to happen.

[IMDAZED]

Hoya is the majority shareholder so he's the one who's affected the most by the company's profitability. If Hoya was making major dough with Scheafer, there would be zero problems. If the company was doing super well, why would there be any strife at all? This whole "Hoya is choosing Bob over Schaefer" stuff is ******. This has nothing to do with Arum. Arum has said so as much that Golden Boy's internal problem had nothing to do with him when asked about it. This is obviously about money, or Golden's Boy's profitability if you will.

Schafer is a shareholder as well. Further, if the profitability is an issue, Oscar won't be the only shareholder raising a stink.

The job of a CEO is to generate revenue and make money for investors. There is no way a CEO could hold a job for nearly 20 years without doing both. Furthermore, Golden Boy is self funded. They generate a pretty hefty check with their PPV's and their policy is to reinvest back into the firm so if there is an issue, it isn't with the CEO it's with the model.

[ShoulderRoll]

Hoya is the majority shareholder so he's the one who's affected the most by the company's profitability. If Hoya was making major dough with Scheafer, there would be zero problems. If the company was doing super well, why would there be any strife at all? This "Hoya is choosing Bob over Schaefer" stuff is ******. This has nothing to do with Arum. Arum has said so as much that Golden Boy's internal problem had nothing to do with him when asked about it. This is obviously about money, or Golden's Boy's profitability.

That's just speculation on your part unless you have evidence that they aren't being profitable.

The company could be doing very well and Oscar could still have issues, be it out of jealousy or due to the company going in a different direction than he envisioned etc.

[DoktorSleepless]

The only times CEOs get dumped are when the company isn't doing well or when the CEO gets caught doing something illegal. People calling Hoya ****** as a matter of fact for wanting to get rid of Scheafer are being naive. As if they know more about the inner workings of the company than Hoya himself.

While I'm doing some speculation myself, it's a lot more likely than "Hoya is choosing Bob over Scheafer because he's ******".

[Carpe Diem]

Either way, like a couple of guys here already mentioned... some of you seem like you want the Cold War to continue.

pretty Insane.

Like I said previously, there are ways where GBP and Top Rank can put on joint promotions monthly or bi-monthly.

And they both can make money this way.

There are a lot of GBP vs TR fights that I'd like to see get made, and I'm all for the cold war to end, but smart business decisions should always comes first. You don't want to be the guy who make decisions off of emotions for the sake of building a business relationship with a rival businessman, and then gets taken advantage of by the same businessman that you're trying to work with.


Arum has stated on more than one occasion that Oscar isn't very bright. I don't think Oscar's promotions would've been relevant as it is today if it weren't for the help of Schaefer. If you can't even trust the guy who has helped built your company, then how are you going to trust the guy who doesn't even respect your intelligence and would play you like a fiddle? At the end of the day, we're the only losers of this rivalry promotions war.

[Kagami Taiga]

The only times CEOs get dumped are when the company isn't doing well or when the CEO gets caught doing something illegal. People calling Hoya ****** as a matter of fact for wanting to get rid of Scheafer are being naive. As if they know more about the inner workings of the company than Hoya himself.

While I'm doing some speculation myself, it's a lot more likely than "Hoya is choosing Bob over Scheafer because he's ******".

So u honestly believe Oscar firing Schafer is the right thing for GBP? Do u think that will make it a better company?