PAC has now evolved into a master boxer

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  • BigAlexSand
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    #91
    A very bold statement considering a boxer takes years to perfect skills and technique. So let me get this straight, in one fight pac evolved into a Master Boxer? GET THE F*** OUT OF HERE!

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    • GorgeousJorge
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      #92
      Originally posted by BigAlexSand
      A very bold statement considering a boxer takes years to perfect skills and technique. So let me get this straight, in one fight pac evolved into a Master Boxer? GET THE F*** OUT OF HERE!
      I don't recall reading anywhere in the original post anything about anybody evolving over the course of just one fight...

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      • straightleft
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        #93
        Originally posted by GorgeousJorge
        I don't recall reading anywhere in the original post anything about anybody evolving over the course of just one fight...
        Anybody can watch how he outboxed Oscar, Margarito, at some point on his fight against Cotto and Mosley then the Rios fight? Pac can box beautifully according to the fights and his opponent style of fighting. It just like Pac wants to bring the fight to his opponents where he excels the most.

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        • V.WEBB
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          #94
          Originally posted by goblin213
          And what's really frightening about Pacquiao is he hasn't even reached his prime yet.
          Missed this gem.

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          • Toyman
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            #95
            Pacquiao looked really sharp against Bradley, (especially when you consider Bradley is one of the hardest people to look good against.)

            In fact, when its all said and done, i would probably favor the 2014 Manny over the 2009 Manny. The punch resistance may have gone down, but he has more than compensated for this with his footwork, which IMO is second to none, along with more patience and timing. It's not that Manny never had these attributes - just that in the past he knew he could get away with it easier.

            This performance has convinced me to put Manny back on the top of my pound for pound rankings. Defeating the #3 fighter in such convincing fashion easily makes his victory the most significant in the sport since he was KO'd by Marquez. I never thought I'd be saying this, but he looks even BETTER after the KO than he did before, and I'm looking forward to some more masterful performances in the near future.

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            • Evol
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              #96
              i like this new offensive style boxing that pac is showing.. not the boring hit run run hit run run block block run run hit that we normally see with other boxers.

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              • arraamis
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                #97
                Originally posted by Spoon23
                You can't be in the top 5 of the p4p if your not a a great boxer. And to be in the top for so many years. and 4 lineal champion, 8 division champ. you cant do that if your not great. PAC is not a pure boxer, but he is a master boxer/fighter now.

                He is both. That makes him great. To an untrained eye you will see a a fighter, but if you look closely there is mad science in his boxing skills.

                You can't be called a phenom if he hasn't dismantled top dogs which he has. If you don't think his a master boxer. When this sport is called boxing. And he has been on the p4p boxing standings for so many years now, and. Now he has chosen to box more coz of his age. If you can't see that he is a master boxer/ fighter. Then you my friend is the one who don't know shiiit about boxing. You can't be in the top 5 p4p best fighters of the world (the world- when there are thousands of boxers out there) if you don't know boxing. Not to mention top dog for so many years. (P4p number 1)

                Lastly, 19 yrs of pro boxing. That's a doctorate in boxing in itself.

                Check out the vid. You'll learn something.
                Pac is a GREAT boxer ... But his limited skill-set prevents him from being a MASTER boxer. Pac defense is severely lacking and he has numerous flaws that other elite boxers would exploit at will.

                JMM is a very good technical boxer and he continuously exploited Pac's pattern of boxing over the course of four fights. A master boxer has the ability to alter their boxing pattern based on the circumstance and offer a counter-balance. Pac has one pattern and when it doesn't work, he doesn't have a plan B ... Which makes his boxing game limited.

                Now, the hopelessly ******ed will read the aforementioned with jaded glasses -- But those statements aren't disparaging against Pac, it is just an observation of his weaknesses as a boxer.

                Also, the hopelessly ******ed, will continuously idolize their target and manufacture ideas that do not have a basis in reality -- And this nonsense should be challenged for the sake of keeping things real.

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                • Holywarrior
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                  #98
                  Pacquiao has been a good boxer for awhile. Look at the 2nd Marquez fight. I think that was the highest level of boxing I've seen from Manny

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                  • Evol
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                    #99
                    PAC does not get enough credit for his defense. I'm not saying manny is great at ducking and slipping punches but he does pretty well, u have to look at his fighting style, it's harder to duck and slip punches when u're moving forward.

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                    • arraamis
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Evol
                      PAC does not get enough credit for his defense. I'm not saying manny is great at ducking and slipping punches but he does pretty well, u have to look at his fighting style, it's harder to duck and slip punches when u're moving forward.
                      And that is a true statement, but when considering "What makes one a MASTER boxer" the totality have to be considered. Guys can't just pick one element and ignore the total package. And they also, cannot present baseless arguments as valid when they obviously omit crucial elements that should be considered. Quoting stats doesn't add validity to the argument, since most stats have a converse.

                      A chess master (for example) dwarfs his competition because he has mastered all aspects of his craft.

                      The same criteria has to be applied to boxing when making statements that (x) is a Master boxer.

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